Question about throw out bearing... - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 11-25-2010, 09:34 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Chavser16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 145
Question about throw out bearing...

First of all, Happy Thanksgiving!

So, tomorrow there is a trail run. It's a moderate/easy one. They usually have one the day after Thanksgiving. A whole bunch of people show up....and for this reason, they make it an easy/moderate run for all those with 4wd vehicles, but not lifted and all that cool stuff. Anyway, my question; Roughly 4 days ago, I started hearing a constant whistling/squeaking noise as I hold down the clutch pedal. When i release it, noise goes away. I've been told it's the throw out bearing. Will I be okay attending the trail run knowing this? Or is it a definite MUST that i leave my Rubi at home? What do you all suggest?? Thanks in advance!

Chavser16 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 10:19 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 108
I have a 01 tj Sahara with a manual tranny mine makes a noise just sitting in neutral with the clutch out and if i press it in the noise goes away. A few people told me it was most likely the throw out bearing so I'm. It going to worry about it until I replace the clutch.

Mike750 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 10:35 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
bobjenkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,646
I believe the throw out bearing only makes noise when the clutch pedal is pressed in.

My friend ran a mustang gt with a TOB that was noisy as all hell for 2 years and it ran fine. When he wen tot replace it after he couldnt stand the noise it fell apart into pieces when he took it out.

Moral of the story. I do not know. But others will help more
bobjenkins is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 10:51 PM   #4
Show Me Your 8008135!

WF Supporting Member
 
s3nt3nc3d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Piqua, OH
Posts: 3,641
Send a message via AIM to s3nt3nc3d
Chances are it'll be okay...my buddy had a Suzuki Samurai that was so bad it ground when in neutral with the clutch out (btw, you hear the throwout bearing with the clutch out, not in) and it was fine until he blew the clutch up a few months later. lol
__________________
"We don't build great brakes because we think you don't know how to drive, we build them for the guy on the road in front of you that doesn't." - Black Magic Brakes
s3nt3nc3d is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 11:13 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,473
Out in - what means?

When the pedal is up - not depressed, the spring is supposed to pull the TO back away from the pressure plate fingers. Not touching, it doesn't turn, cannot make noise when it doesn't turn.

Pedal down, depressed, it turns, if the bearing is bad it'll squeel, crunch or grind - like a bad bearing!

Sometimes the spring doesn't hold it back enough when the pedal is up, it sounds more like a rattle then. Touch the pedal slightly, the noise changes.

Pedal up in neutral - the trans input is turning crunching then is more serious.
rrich is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 11:30 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
Chavser16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 145
Quote:
Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d View Post
t (btw, you hear the throwout bearing with the clutch out, not in)
Dammit! So what the hell is the noise it's making?? It ONLY happens when clutch pedal is IN whether it's in neutral and/or while in any gear....
Chavser16 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 11:31 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chavser16 View Post
First of all, Happy Thanksgiving!

So, tomorrow there is a trail run. It's a moderate/easy one. They usually have one the day after Thanksgiving. A whole bunch of people show up....and for this reason, they make it an easy/moderate run for all those with 4wd vehicles, but not lifted and all that cool stuff. Anyway, my question; Roughly 4 days ago, I started hearing a constant whistling/squeaking noise as I hold down the clutch pedal. When i release it, noise goes away. I've been told it's the throw out bearing. Will I be okay attending the trail run knowing this? Or is it a definite MUST that i leave my Rubi at home? What do you all suggest?? Thanks in advance!
My interpretation of a bad throwout bearing has always been a "rattling" noise when you have the vehicle in neutral, and the clutch out. When you push the clutch back in, the noise will cease.
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 11:37 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
Chavser16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 145
Quote:
Originally Posted by rrich View Post
Pedal down, depressed, it turns, if the bearing is bad it'll squeel, crunch or grind - like a bad bearing!
This is exactly what mine is doing. It's squealing. So then it is a bad bearing? Damn....This noise started a few days ago. Will I be okay to attend trail run tomorrow?
Chavser16 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 11:47 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
It's going to depend on whether you can shift gears or not. If it was REAL bad, like on my old F-150 back yonder, then you would grind trying to go into the next gear. ( I had a bad clutch AND throwout bearing. )

Is your clutch releasing?

As for me, if I had any doubts, I wouldn't risk it. But if you think you can squeeze one more ride out of it, then go for it. Just make sure you have buddies there who can get you back if something goes wrong.
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-25-2010, 11:57 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
Chavser16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 145
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatriotNC View Post
It's going to depend on whether you can shift gears or not. If it was REAL bad, like on my old F-150 back yonder, then you would grind trying to go into the next gear. ( I had a bad clutch AND throwout bearing. )

Is your clutch releasing?

As for me, if I had any doubts, I wouldn't risk it. But if you think you can squeeze one more ride out of it, then go for it. Just make sure you have buddies there who can get you back if something goes wrong.
I am able to shift without any problems. So far it's just a squealing noise when clutch pedal is in. I guess I'm gonna try it out. I'll be heading out there with a few friends so if anything goes wrong I'll be fine.
Chavser16 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 12:02 AM   #11
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chavser16 View Post
I am able to shift without any problems. So far it's just a squealing noise when clutch pedal is in. I guess I'm gonna try it out. I'll be heading out there with a few friends so if anything goes wrong I'll be fine.
Hmmmm.........I could be wrong.....but my experience with a throwout bearing is when you hear the noise while the clutch is OUT, and the vehicle is in neutral. Once you push the clutch IN, the noise will stop.

If you're able to shift, then the clutch plates are coming together, and releasing. Can you still hear the noise when you have the vehicle moving, and under a load?
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 12:15 AM   #12
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,473
If the bearing made noise when it wasn't turning (pedal up, some call that out, some call that in,) then when you take the TO bearing out and put it on the bench it would still be making noise.

I used to stock new ones on the shelf, they never made noise sitting in the box!
But I never tried sneaking up on them on a moonless night either.

In, out - you mean the pedal or the pressure plate? Is "out" meaning pedal up - clutch engaged, pressure plate squeezing, everything's turning, transferring energy?

Or does "out" mean pedal down - pressure plate not squeezing, engine turning independently of the transmission?

Semantics!!!!!!!!

Try saying what you mean. "Won't turn over," "won't start," "won't go," are more misleading phrases.

It's just a bearing - when it starts to go bad the small ball bearings or roller bearings are falling apart inside. When you put pressure on it by pushing down on the pedal to disengage the pressure plate, that bearing starts grinding and protesting. They usually grind or squeel for quite some time before they fail completely. Even if it stops turning, the clutch is still usable far a few more miles - but the pressure plate fingers wear fast, needing a new pressure plate soon (clutch cover as some call it.)

Have a good time on your trip - replace asap when you get back.
rrich is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 12:17 AM   #13
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by rrich View Post
If the bearing made noise when it wasn't turning (pedal up, some call that out, some call that in,) then when you take the TO bearing out and put it on the bench it would still be making noise.

I used to stock new ones on the shelf, they never made noise sitting in the box!

But I never tried sneaking up on them on a moonless night either.

In, out - you mean the pedal or the pressure plate? Is "out" meaning pedal up - clutch engaged, pressiure plate squeezing, everything's turning, transferring energy?

Or does "out" mean pedal down - pressure plate not squeezing, engine turning independently of the transmission?

Semantics!!!!!!!!

Try saying what you mean. "Won't turn over," "won't start," "won't go," are more misleading phrases.
If the guy knew the answers, he wouldn't be asking.
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 12:45 AM   #14
Show Me Your 8008135!

WF Supporting Member
 
s3nt3nc3d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Piqua, OH
Posts: 3,641
Send a message via AIM to s3nt3nc3d
You push an object in...and pull an object out (or a spring does it for you).

I've never heard the term "push the clutch pedal out" or "let the clutch in"...however, it's common discussion when teaching someone to drive a stick:

"Push the clutch in...okay, now give it a little gas and slowly let it out."
__________________
"We don't build great brakes because we think you don't know how to drive, we build them for the guy on the road in front of you that doesn't." - Black Magic Brakes
s3nt3nc3d is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 12:49 AM   #15
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d View Post
You push an object in...and pull an object out (or a spring does it for you).

I've never heard the term "push the clutch pedal out" or "let the clutch in"...however, it's common discussion when teaching someone to drive a stick:

"Push the clutch in...okay, now give it a little gas and slowly let it out."
In in the South, we say, "Mash in the clutch!" That might confuse someone above the Mason-Dixon Line, ya think?
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 03:16 AM   #16
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
Brother Chav,

Go to this video, and see if the noise you're getting in your Jeep resembles this. The video shows what a bad throwout bearing may sound like.

PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 04:06 AM   #17
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,473
S3 - you said in post #4 """""(btw, you hear the throwout bearing with the clutch out, not in""""".
The pedal is not the clutch, it merely actuates it. The clutch engages or disengages.

Then if you are talking about the pedal being "out," you mean the pedal is UP - the clutch is engaged, the pressure plate is squeezing the disc, turning the input shaft of the trans.
When the pedal is UP the TO bearing is not touching the fingers of the pressure plate (or it's not supposed to be,) the bearing is not spinning - IT'S STOPPED! How can it make noise then?

So when your friend removed it from the rig and put it on the bench, it still must have made noise? It's not turning there either.

Did the new one sound the same while it was still in the box?

If the TO bearing was allowed to ride on the fingers all the time it would not last as long as they do. That's one of 2 reasons why there's a light spring either on the fork or inside the slave cylinder to pull it back off the fingers a few thousandths.

It's not unlike a wheel or axle bearing going bad. You can hear it when it's supporting the weight of the vehicle - loaded. But when you jack it up and turn it it's quiet (unloaded.)
rrich is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 04:23 AM   #18
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
You're kind of splitting hairs here. When he says "clutch out", he means the clutch is engaged. "In" means disengaged. The "pedal" actuates the clutch, true........ but the clutch could do nothing on it's own without that pedal being depressed or released.

I have heard throwout bearing noise when I release the clutch pedal when the tranny is in neutral. When you step on the clutch pedal, it should cease with the noise.

The video above demonstrates that.
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 09:22 AM   #19
Jeeper
 
robbiecc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 771
thanks PatriotNC
I have, for better choice of terms, a rattle. It only happens(not always) when i push in the clutch pedal at or above 3K rpm. no noise in 'N' and nothing under 3K and appears to shift fine(only 2nd manual tranny-last one yrs ago) Recently i have heard it while in 1st gear and i hit 3k then let it slow down(parking lot to stop sign)
thought it may be a TO but it's not sounding like it-my thought now is at 3K or above, there's just something loose and at that rpm it just gets it to rattle-not loud or last long, just long enough to hear it(bout the snap of a finger in duration)
anyhow unless it gets alot worse, it's on my 'spring time' list-gettin too damn cold to be playing in the driveway unless theres no other choice.
robbiecc is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 09:42 AM   #20
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 31,491
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatriotNC View Post
I have heard throwout bearing noise when I release the clutch pedal when the tranny is in neutral. When you step on the clutch pedal, it should cease with the noise.
What you are hearing when you are not stepping down on the clutch is not the throwout bearing, you are hearing the transmission's input shaft spinning and its bearings. The throwout bearing only spins when your foot has the clutch pedal pushed down.
__________________
Remember that having a different opinion doesn't also require one to be a jerk when expressing it.

When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 12:05 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,473
Jerry it's obvious several of these guys have never been into a clutch - or if they were they didn't understand how it works.

The 3k rattle = if you barely touch the clutch pedal, at the speed while it's doing it, does it change sound? When you very lightly touch the pedal, the TO Bearing moves forward those few thousanths and touches the fingers, the bearing stops flopping around on the fork and begins to spin. If barely touching it changes the sound, it's associated with the bearing itself or the fork spring that holds it in place.

If you have to push harder than just "barely" it could be pressure plate related - inside the pressure plate is a bunch of coil springs and shims if it's a Borg and Beck style (3 fingered.) A spring may have broken.
If it's a diaphragm type (Bellville washer type) no shims, but the major element may be cracking.
Check something - if it has a removable cover on the bottom of the bellhousing - remove it (5 or 6 small bolts) and look to see if the clutch cover - pressure plate - is properly bolted to the flywheel (should be 6 bigger bolts that hold the pressure plate to the flywheel.) If one or more is loose, simply tighten them.

It's more than once I thought we were going to do a clutch job and found the bolts loose. I love the big smiles when I tell the customer instead of charging $300-400, it'll be $40 (1/2 hr in those days.)
rrich is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 12:20 PM   #22
Jeeper
 
Chavser16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 145
Forgive me for not using appropriate terms to describe what I'm hearing. When I say clutch pedal in...I mean my foot is pushing in the pedal. When I say out, I mean I release the clutch pedal. I'm only trying to describe what I'm hearing and what I'm doing as I hear this noise. I'm no mechanic....I'm a freaking school principal....IN=foot pressing in clutch pedal; OUT=foot released off of clutch pedal. That's the best I can do fellas....sorry....
Chavser16 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 12:50 PM   #23
Show Me Your 8008135!

WF Supporting Member
 
s3nt3nc3d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Piqua, OH
Posts: 3,641
Send a message via AIM to s3nt3nc3d
Quote:
Originally Posted by rrich View Post
S3 - you said in post #4 """""(btw, you hear the throwout bearing with the clutch out, not in""""".
The pedal is not the clutch, it merely actuates it. The clutch engages or disengages.

Then if you are talking about the pedal being "out," you mean the pedal is UP - the clutch is engaged, the pressure plate is squeezing the disc, turning the input shaft of the trans.
When the pedal is UP the TO bearing is not touching the fingers of the pressure plate (or it's not supposed to be,) the bearing is not spinning - IT'S STOPPED! How can it make noise then?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
What you are hearing when you are not stepping down on the clutch is not the throwout bearing, you are hearing the transmission's input shaft spinning and its bearings. The throwout bearing only spins when your foot has the clutch pedal pushed down.
I stand corrected...apparently when my friend's Samurai was having problems it was the bearings in the trans input shaft and they were wrong saying it was the throwout bearing. Never found out otherwise since the clutch literally blew up (taking part of the transmission with it) a couple months later.

On that note, before I buy a new LUK clutch kit and find out I was given the wrong diagnosis... I'm having a problem with what I was told is my throwout bearing about to go out. I hear the typical (typical as in most likely perfectly normal) whirring noise in neutral with the clutch pedal released (so I don't confuse any of you... ). When I'm in gear with the clutch pedal depressed...and barely start to release it, I hear a light bell ringing sound. This sound usually is audible for a little bit at low speeds with the clutch fully depressed as well through 1st-3rd gears...probably the others too, but I'm moving too fast to hear over the wind noise. Is this most likely the throwout bearing or something else? Since he'll be up in there fixing that, I figure I'm just going to have the entire clutch replaced as well just to get it out of the way for the next 150-200k miles.
__________________
"We don't build great brakes because we think you don't know how to drive, we build them for the guy on the road in front of you that doesn't." - Black Magic Brakes
s3nt3nc3d is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 01:01 PM   #24
Jeeper
 
robbiecc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 771
Quote:
Originally Posted by rrich View Post
The 3k rattle = if you barely touch the clutch pedal, at the speed while it's doing it, does it change sound? When you very lightly touch the pedal, the TO Bearing moves forward those few thousanths and touches the fingers, the bearing stops flopping around on the fork and begins to spin. If barely touching it changes the sound, it's associated with the bearing itself or the fork spring that holds it in place.

If you have to push harder than just "barely" it could be pressure plate related - inside the pressure plate is a bunch of coil springs and shims if it's a Borg and Beck style (3 fingered.) A spring may have broken.
If it's a diaphragm type (Bellville washer type) no shims, but the major element may be cracking.
Check something - if it has a removable cover on the bottom of the bellhousing - remove it (5 or 6 small bolts) and look to see if the clutch cover - pressure plate - is properly bolted to the flywheel (should be 6 bigger bolts that hold the pressure plate to the flywheel.) If one or more is loose, simply tighten them.
it only does it when i push the pedal down-most noticable 1st to 2nd. doesn't happen just touching the pedal-engine/tranny fully disengaged.
normal driving/shifting(not playing 'speed racer) if i go to say 3100 rpm, usually by the time i get the pedal all the way down i'll hear if for maybe a second or less-not loud and not a 'grinding' sound, more like a 'ziiiiiiiit' sound.
other gears i don't usually run the rpm that high so don't really know if it does it there too.
Thought i've heard it while in gear too-got up past 3K and then let off the gas to stop(pulling out of parking lot to stop sign-truck comming faster than i thought) and it has to be 3K or over-2900 it won't do it. and doesn't seem to do it all the time but most of the time
robbiecc is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 02:39 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,473
s3 and robbi - neither one of you sound like you have a serious problem - yet.
If you were to go through all the effort to take it down, you'd probably not find anything wrong. It's not bad enough to worry about - yet.
When it gets much worse, or when it's hard to shift or get it in gear, then do it. That may be several thousand miles from now - maybe even years.

When you get a kit - Luke seems to be the preferred one, it should come with a new TO bearing anyway. Be sure at that time to replace the pilot bushing too.

DO NOT LET THEM RESURFACE THE FLYWHEEL! It has a slight curvature to it to make it operate smoothly. If it's glazed, simply scratch it up to break the glaze with fine Emory paper. Home depot has a nice mesh Emory cloth - a roll in tear off strips that doesn't clog - tools, paint, or where they keep drywall paste. A machine shop cannot duplicate that slight convex curve with their grinders or lathes.
If it's badly cracked - not just surface cracks, replace it with new.

Meanwhile, at your convenience, drop by a performance speed shop and get a small tube of "pilot bushing grease." It's a special grease for lubing the pilot bushing that won't run off. Regular parts houses never even have heard of it. It only takes a tiny bit, but it sure makes a difference in smooth operation.

When you do get around to replacing the clutch, let us know - there are many time and effort saving tips that really help make an ugly job more palatable. (Maybe you can tell - I hate working on my back on the floor!)

Bummer about the friend's Sammy. When a clutch does self destruct, it can do lots of damage. A close friend was drag racing his Chevy at the strip, missed a shift, over revved, the clutch and flywheel exploded - nearly cutting the car in half! Fortunately he only got a small piece of something go clear through his leg, breaking the bone.

Scatter shields and blankets were invented for a reason!

We should not need them on a stock Jeep - but when a clutch gets real noisey or feels wrong, fix it asap.
rrich is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 11:01 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chavser16 View Post
Forgive me for not using appropriate terms to describe what I'm hearing. When I say clutch pedal in...I mean my foot is pushing in the pedal. When I say out, I mean I release the clutch pedal. I'm only trying to describe what I'm hearing and what I'm doing as I hear this noise. I'm no mechanic....I'm a freaking school principal....IN=foot pressing in clutch pedal; OUT=foot released off of clutch pedal. That's the best I can do fellas....sorry....
You needn't apologize for anything. Most of us knew exactly what you meant.
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 11:03 PM   #27
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by rrich View Post
Jerry it's obvious several of these guys have never been into a clutch - or if they were they didn't understand how it works.

The 3k rattle = if you barely touch the clutch pedal, at the speed while it's doing it, does it change sound? When you very lightly touch the pedal, the TO Bearing moves forward those few thousanths and touches the fingers, the bearing stops flopping around on the fork and begins to spin. If barely touching it changes the sound, it's associated with the bearing itself or the fork spring that holds it in place.

If you have to push harder than just "barely" it could be pressure plate related - inside the pressure plate is a bunch of coil springs and shims if it's a Borg and Beck style (3 fingered.) A spring may have broken.
If it's a diaphragm type (Bellville washer type) no shims, but the major element may be cracking.
Check something - if it has a removable cover on the bottom of the bellhousing - remove it (5 or 6 small bolts) and look to see if the clutch cover - pressure plate - is properly bolted to the flywheel (should be 6 bigger bolts that hold the pressure plate to the flywheel.) If one or more is loose, simply tighten them.

It's more than once I thought we were going to do a clutch job and found the bolts loose. I love the big smiles when I tell the customer instead of charging $300-400, it'll be $40 (1/2 hr in those days.)
I can toss a Harley-Davidson clutch in blind-folded. Pffft.
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-26-2010, 11:30 PM   #28
Jeeper
 
Chavser16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 145
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatriotNC View Post
Brother Chav,

Go to this video, and see if the noise you're getting in your Jeep resembles this. The video shows what a bad throwout bearing may sound like.

Not the noise I'm hearing......fortunately?? My sh*t is straight out weird then. Just imagine listening to a shopping cart wheel squeak down the grocery isle...almost identical to the noise I'm getting when I have my foot pressing in on the clutch pedal. I can hear it in neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th gear, and even in 4hi and 4lo. ONLY when I have the clutch pedal pushed in with my foot. When I release foot off clutch pedal....I don't hear anything. Just the usual noise anyone would hear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PatriotNC View Post
You needn't apologize for anything. Most of us knew exactly what you meant.
Cool deal man....I thought I was upsetting some people on here due to my lack of knowledge on how to pin point bad throw out bearings...
Chavser16 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-27-2010, 12:13 AM   #29
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 112
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chavser16 View Post
Not the noise I'm hearing......fortunately?? My sh*t is straight out weird then. Just imagine listening to a shopping cart wheel squeak down the grocery isle...almost identical to the noise I'm getting when I have my foot pressing in on the clutch pedal. I can hear it in neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th gear, and even in 4hi and 4lo. ONLY when I have the clutch pedal pushed in with my foot. When I release foot off clutch pedal....I don't hear anything. Just the usual noise anyone would hear.



Cool deal man....I thought I was upsetting some people on here due to my lack of knowledge on how to pin point bad throw out bearings...
You needn't worry about anything. You're just fine. Not everything posted here is the right answer all the time. You more or less sift through it, see what makes sense or applies to you, and go from there. Anyone who expects everyone on here to be be a gear head is asking too much. Not everyone can be. You just keep asking away.....it'll all get sorted out, brother.
PatriotNC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-27-2010, 03:30 AM   #30
Show Me Your 8008135!

WF Supporting Member
 
s3nt3nc3d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Piqua, OH
Posts: 3,641
Send a message via AIM to s3nt3nc3d
Quote:
Originally Posted by rrich View Post
Bummer about the friend's Sammy. When a clutch does self destruct, it can do lots of damage. A close friend was drag racing his Chevy at the strip, missed a shift, over revved, the clutch and flywheel exploded - nearly cutting the car in half! Fortunately he only got a small piece of something go clear through his leg, breaking the bone.
OUCH! My friend totally deserved his clutch exploding... his clutch started slipping bad and smoking and he's a stubborn rich kid who'd rather blow up his vehicle than have to walk clear across the property back to the barn to get a tractor to tow his vehicle back. So when the clutch started slipping, he just shifted into a higher gear and mashed the gas. Eventually he was in 5th gear, running about 5000 RPMs with smoke pouring out of the clutch and then pieces came flying through the floorboard and shooting all over the driveway and the Samurai stopped. I had pictures saved somewhere...but the clutch and (pressure plate?) exploded and it actually took out large chunks of the transmission case as well.

Thanks for the info on the clutch...good to know it's not totally urgent cuz I need to fix my starter soon too. Damn solenoid is going out...doesn't like to engage on the first try all the time.

__________________
"We don't build great brakes because we think you don't know how to drive, we build them for the guy on the road in front of you that doesn't." - Black Magic Brakes
s3nt3nc3d is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Throw out bearing shot??? lap49X TJ Tech Forum 28 04-04-2014 08:19 PM
throwout bearing cret0013 TJ Tech Forum 5 09-17-2009 12:49 PM
Carb question and EGR question trulefty YJ Tech Forum 0 12-12-2006 04:55 PM
Throw Out Bearing Problem? RomanOneNC TJ Tech Forum 1 09-25-2006 08:44 PM
Throw out bearing jj33002 YJ Tech Forum 7 02-21-2006 10:18 PM



» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:37 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC