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Old 12-18-2012, 11:17 AM   #1
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I've got an '03 TJ with 53k miles on it. It's got a 4" lift, 33x12.50x15 KM2's, and 3.07 gears. I want to re-gear and lock it, but I don't really want to spend the $$$ on the D35 rear. I've checked out East Coast Gear and looked into the Ford 8.8 swap, as well as Quadratec and 4WP for D44. If I do this, I want to do it right, but I don't want to over-pay. I noticed that Quadratec has 2 D44 options now- Superior Axle and G2. They're both slightly more than a Ford 8.8, all things equal- disk brake upgrades, 4.56 gearing, Eaton locker. I can't remember exact prices, but we're literally talking about roughly a $300 difference.

Which route would be would you take? Why?

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If I was going to order it from East Coast Gear with chromoly axles, I would probably get the D44. If I am going to build/configure an axle myself to keeps costs down, I would do the 8.8.

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I chose to go the route of the Dana 44 mainly because it is a direct bolt in set up.
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Heck I would just look for a used Dana 44 out of a Wrangler TJ. They can often be found for $800, sometimes even less, and it'd be a simple bolt-in job. All you'd have to do is regear it, the rest of it would be bolt-in.
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I went with the G2 Dana 44 option. I got mine right before the price increase and got a free compressor with them for the ARB lockers. I had gone to 4 WD and picked up from their store to avoid frt. but hear Quadratec will deal and even with frt. may end up cheaper. They bolted right in and I have been very happy with them.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:50 PM   #6
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Heck I would just look for a used Dana 44 out of a Wrangler TJ. They can often be found for $800, sometimes even less, and it'd be a simple bolt-in job. All you'd have to do is regear it, the rest of it would be bolt-in.
I've been monitoring Craigslist from Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, and Texas (I live in Central Oklahoma). NO Dana 44s for a TJ out there for sale. I've called salvage yards, etc also.
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I went with g2s ..yep they aint cheap but if you plan on keeping your rig you can have set up just like you want.I even sold my stock axles and recouped some coin..
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ECGS, get the bolt on 8.8 for 700 bucks.
Add 500 for superior shafts.
Add 900 for an ARB.

Totals 2100 bucks and now you can feel free to burn the life our of any 35 inch tire you get your hands on, instead of babying em on a 44.


If this was a front axle, it is hard to find anything other than a high pinion dana 30 that will be a semi-easy swap. For that, I would hit the magazines.
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ECGS, get the bolt on 8.8 for 700 bucks.
Add 500 for superior shafts.
Add 900 for an ARB.

Totals 2100 bucks and now you can feel free to burn the life our of any 35 inch tire you get your hands on, instead of babying em on a 44.


If this was a front axle, it is hard to find anything other than a high pinion dana 30 that will be a semi-easy swap. For that, I would hit the magazines.
Add $535 for 4.56 gears....
Add $180 for new calipers/ ebrake/ brake pads/ etc.....And your right up to about what a brand new (not used housing), D44 from G2.
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Yea I looked at the ecgs 8.8 and they are a little steep I mean all it is, is a used 8.8 that they have welded the brackets onto and its 700. Anything u want done is extra, rebuild, diff axles, lockers, to get it painted I mean everything, I can get an 8.8 for 150, get an artec truss for 350, and am already better that what ecgs has for 700 and I'm 200 cheaper, but also take into consideration if u don't already have it, with the 8.8 u will most likely need adj con arms, a sye, dc driveshaft, whereas with the d44 u probably won't. They would be nice but since it is a stock part on the jeep it'll bolt right in
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I need to hit the lottery to pay for the G2s....$3k for the rear with disks, 4.56 gears and Eaton E-locker ($2450 with drums). $2600 for the front.
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I need to hit the lottery to pay for the G2s....$3k for the rear with disks, 4.56 gears and Eaton E-locker ($2450 with drums). $2600 for the front.
superior,g2 ,junkyard axles with new gears lockers maybe new shafts...there is no cheap and easy answer ..you asked.if you can find some used 44s with lockers and gear you need you did hit the lottery !!
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Yea I looked at the ecgs 8.8 and they are a little steep I mean all it is, is a used 8.8 that they have welded the brackets onto and its 700. Anything u want done is extra, rebuild, diff axles, lockers, to get it painted I mean everything, I can get an 8.8 for 150, get an artec truss for 350, and am already better that what ecgs has for 700 and I'm 200 cheaper, but also take into consideration if u don't already have it, with the 8.8 u will most likely need adj con arms, a sye, dc driveshaft, whereas with the d44 u probably won't. They would be nice but since it is a stock part on the jeep it'll bolt right in


Ehh, I looked and studied for months and was unable to find a used D 44, East Coast did parts and labor and front gear swap to 4.10 for me and was considerably cheaper than 4wheeldrive in Raleigh for the G2 and labor (by a tune of 3,100.00 cheaper).
G2 with the same set up mind you, 4.10 gears, lift and tires, and axle (rear) was 8300.00.
I got the 8.8 axle with new shafts new 4.10 gears, new calipers and brakes, SYE, axle, BDS full 3 inch susp. lift, regear, and labor for 3600.00, the wheels and tires came from Discount Tires for 1600. (BF G 33 12.50's in Pro Comp alloy's)

By the way without the SYE, driveshaft and lift would have made the axle, the front regear, and labor 2400.00 for service and parts from East Coast.
So at least for me it was cheaper to go with the 8.8

Now, I did go with a limited slip as I did not feel like I needed a locker, but I also priced the G2 with the limited slip...
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superior,g2 ,junkyard axles with new gears lockers maybe new shafts...there is no cheap and easy answer ..you asked.if you can find some used 44s with lockers and gear you need you did hit the lottery !!

Oh, I agree....I did ask! I can't find any D44s set up, ready to go, withing a 7 hr drive of here. I just priced it all out....Front and Back G2s, geared, locked, and delivered is $5750- $6500 (Summit Racing has the best price).

I've already got the SYE and CV driveshaft installed.
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Ehh, I looked and studied for months and was unable to find a used D 44, East Coast did parts and labor and front gear swap to 4.10 for me and was considerably cheaper than 4wheeldrive in Raleigh for the G2 and labor (by a tune of 3,100.00 cheaper).
G2 with the same set up mind you, 4.10 gears, lift and tires, and axle (rear) was 8300.00.
I got the 8.8 axle with new shafts new 4.10 gears, new calipers and brakes, SYE, axle, BDS full 3 inch susp. lift, regear, and labor for 3600.00, the wheels and tires came from Discount Tires for 1600. (BF G 33 12.50's in Pro Comp alloy's)

By the way without the SYE, driveshaft and lift would have made the axle, the front regear, and labor 2400.00 for service and parts from East Coast.
So at least for me it was cheaper to go with the 8.8

Now, I did go with a limited slip as I did not feel like I needed a locker, but I also priced the G2 with the limited slip...
wow..unless prices have gone up alot in the past year and a half or its just your area that is painful (8300). my bill wasnt near that terrifying
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wow..unless prices have gone up alot in the past year and a half or its just your area that is painful (8300). my bill wasnt near that terrifying

Between parts and labor and shipping the axle. Yep, everything else in the store that I have ordered the "freight" was included if I shipped to the store, however the axle was a few hunnerd to ship...

I was also quoted 500.00 to install a 1 1/4'' body lift. I said, I will be doing that myself...
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oh yea and 1900.00 to regear the D 30 and D 35 if I didn't swap axles
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I noticed that Quadratec has 2 D44 options now- Superior Axle and G2. They're both slightly more than a Ford 8.8, all things equal- disk brake upgrades, 4.56 gearing, Eaton locker. I can't remember exact prices, but we're literally talking about roughly a $300 difference.

Which route would be would you take? Why?
I would go with the new G2 Dana44 axle with an ARB Air Locker and simply bolt it in. As I surf the 4WP site, I see they'll sell you this complete axle assembly with 35-spline axles for $2,517. Switch to the Eaton locker and drop down to weaker 30-spline axles and the cost rises to $2,551. (Prices quoted do not include disc brakes.)

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