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Old 11-23-2010, 02:44 PM   #1
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Rear brake job soon

I plan on doing my rear brakes this weekend (hopefully) since I have about 140k on the originals (assuming PO never had them changed). Does anyone have recommended parts for this? I did a little shopping around and NAPA has the cheapest drums at $35.99 each, anyone use these? How about Duralast shoes? I saw NAPA Premium shoes going for $70!!!

So far:

2x NAPA Drums - 35.99 each (NAPA)
2x Duralast All-in-one drum kit (springs, etc) - 7.99 each (AZ)
2x Rear adjuster kits - 10.99 each (AZ - May just replace adjusters for $7 a pop)
1x 4 Duralast Rear Drum Shoes - 17.99 (AZ)
2x Wheel Cylinder - 8.69 each (NAPA)
Total ~ $150.00

Am I overdoing it with the parts I need? My last brake job - in the front - was a nightmare because I didn't just suck it up and replace the calipers while doing the job the first time and one seized up on me afterwards... I figured with 140k the drums are a necessity. The rest of the parts are fairly cheap so I don't see a problem in doing the whole job at once. Any input?

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Old 11-23-2010, 03:56 PM   #2
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I use their Hi Perfornmance rotors on my Dodge Ram which had a habit of warping rotors but not these and I have regular NAPA rotors on the rear of my TJ w/8.8" rear. I have used their brake parts for years on most of the vehicles I have owned with never a problem .

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Old 11-23-2010, 05:07 PM   #3
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Remember straight bonded shoes suck, get the shoes that are riveted or the riveted and bonded shoes. Just a rule of thumb : if you buy cheap rotors and drums and use the expensive shoes/pads the rotors/drum tend to wear out faster but if you buy the good rotors/drums and the cheaper shoes your drums/rotors will last a lot longer and because the compound is a bit softer better braking.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:44 PM   #4
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Autozone Duralast brake products are junk. We put a set of their premium bonded (again, junk) shoes in the wife's XJ. They performed miserably and wore out in less than a year. Same goes for their disc brake pads --worse than junk.

I've tried most every parts-store brand including Bendix, and have never been happy with the quality. We ended up going with Wagner products this time around.

You get what you pay for. These are not bonded --they're riveted and heavy. And they're new, not rebuilt junk. We've been using Wagners for 3 years now. The stopping power is awesome and they're very quiet. We bought discounted from Amazon, and couldn't be happier with them.
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I got all my stuff at Advance Auto... and I replaced everything including the wheel cylinders because I broke the freakin bleeder... My jeep is super rusted underneathe though. Mine are working ok still but I have only put 400 miles on it since then. If you want the job to go a bit easier, get a drum brake spring tool to remove and install the springs. It's much easier than trying to use pliers. Needle nose pliers worked ok for putting the pins and springs on that hold the brake shoes in place. Just do one side at time, in case your memory is horrible like mine and you can't remember how to get them back together. good luck.
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:41 PM   #6
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I stopped getting any auto parts from aftermarket stores unless it's an emergency. I get everything I can OEM.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:17 PM   #7
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Out of all the aftermarket stuff out there, NAPA would be a good choice. They make good products and I have never had a NAPA store not stand behind their product. I would not use the Duralast shoe though, go with a Wagner or Raybestos. Do yourself a favor and replace the adjusters as well, and you may want to take a look at your parking brake shoes since you will have it apart anyway..
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I wasn't aware that the parking brake had separate shoes, does those adjust with the regular shoes as each wears differently? I'll start checking out new pads. I'm going to pull my drums this Friday and take a peak before buying everything, I'm scared of what I'll find
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Old 11-24-2010, 06:21 AM   #9
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I think parking brake shoes are only on those with rear disk brakes. I know my explorer had them.
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I picked up my rear shoes from AutoZone as they were the only place that had them in stock. They are bonded, not riveted, but on the other hand they do come with a life time warranty for as long as you own the vehicle. I picked up my complete spring kit at ORiley, they sell the entire kit..springs, adjusters, emergancy brake cables the whole kit for both back brakes for around $14. Had the drums turned for $13 each at Oriley.
The most important part of the job is to make sure everything is where it belongs when you are finished and before you cover them with the drums. Then make sure you adjust them properly.
Overall the job is a easy 3 out of 10 and can be done with only a pair of needle nose plier and a pair of standard pliers. Don't forget to pick up a can of brake cleaner when you are at the auto parts store.
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I just did my brakes with all Napa stuff. the drums are nice. I got their cheapest shoes, $20 for all 4 shoes. and I know at napa, the spring bag had all the bits for both sides, so you might want to check that before you buy two.
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And yes, only the rear disc brake setup comes with parking brake shoes. Drum brakes are held in place against the drum when you pull the parking brake handle and do double duty.
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AZ parts suck. I went through a few pairs of rear cylinders from them and couldn't get any to allow me to thread the brake line in. The Napa parts I ended up with had no problem with this. On my AZ front calipers, the bleeder screw was cross-threaded. I will NEVER get parts from them again.
I found a rear brake tool I bought to be invaluable.... If you don't have one I recommend getting one, made the job a piece of cake for me. Some good advice I got from someone here, do one side at a time. That way you have a cheatsheet to copy from if your not sure where everything goes.
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I planned on buying the spring tool, it'll be good for my arsenal. I'll keep in mind the quality of NAPA parts
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I just picked up some shoes from Autozone. they are Duralast and riveted not bounded.
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And yes, only the rear disc brake setup comes with parking brake shoes. Drum brakes are held in place against the drum when you pull the parking brake handle and do double duty.
What model TJ uses both drums/shoes and rotors/discs on the rear to accomidate the parking brake? I'd like to see the specs on that.

Autozone's brake parts are crap, riveted or bonded. Stopping power with this junk is marginal at best and they wear out within 10k miles. You get what you pay for.
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None that I know of. I was only making the comment that on a rear drum brake set-up, the rear drum brakes are also the parking brakes...period.
And that the set up for parking parks are a complete different set up for rear disc brakes.

I have never run into any problems with the parts from AZ, only some un-educated counter help. Maybe I have just been luckier than some folks here.

Don't get me wrong, I like NAPA. What I don't like is there is not a NAPA store within 10 miles. And depending what the part is, the price for the same part may be priced 20% higher from one location to the other. Where as I have two AZ stores each with in 3 miles in opposite direction, both of which are with in walking distance of any Oriley Auto Parts.
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I haven't had too many problems with AZ parts either but I always read horror stories so I consider myself lucky. Depending on the item I usually try to buy OEM unless it is a consumable

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