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Old 02-28-2010, 04:53 PM   #1
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Rear Seat Belt Question

I have an 06 model. I rode with my daughter (10 months old) for the first time and when i strapped her car seat in i found that my rear seat belts do not lock. is there a fix for this? do i have to replace the belts? its not really an issue now, but when the summer months get here, she will be in a forward facing seat and it needs to be secure for her back there.

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Did you try both sides and neither of them would lock? Check to make sure that they are not switched (crossed over) where they come through the holes in the back seat.

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Did you pull it all the way out, and let it retract? If so, that sounds defective to me, and I'd be heading to the dealer. They also make locking clips for car seats that you probably already know about. My kids have been out of carseats for several years now.... Thank God!
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I think that I misunderstood that question. I thought that you meant that the buckle would not lock. Sorry. Good catch Inferno.
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:59 PM   #5
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The rear belt in my Hemi (2008 Rem Quad) doesn't lock either, it goes willy nilly but that's why they include the locking clips with the seats. I think its designed only to lock when your pressing the breaks.
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yeah, the buckle locks, i was talking about even after pulling the belt as far out as it will go, it still doesn't lock. i guess i'm afraid of them falling out of the belts if something bad happens...
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It should, just like your front belts, lock with any sudden braking or impact. They do make a clip that comes with most carriers that lock the lap and shoulder belts together to keep the belts tight.
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Yeah, if the mechanism isn't locking, I think that is a problem. But, like I said, it's been a while since I had to deal with them and I don't remember all the particulars. Check with your dealer tomorrow and see if this is normal. And then I'd check with the state police and see what options you are supposed to use if the non locking belt is the norm.
Good luck, and keep those kiddos safe!
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None of the Jeep seat belts lock by simply yanking on them. They lock only from an impact or if the Jeep is at a steep enough angle to lock them up. There is a ball inside a locking mechanism that when a forward impact or the Jeep's steep angle cause the ball to roll or be thrown out of its normal position, the seat belt locks up.
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i have two carseats in the back of my TJ and in the back there is ancher hooks.
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None of the Jeep seat belts lock by simply yanking on them. They lock only from an impact or if the Jeep is at a steep enough angle to lock them up. There is a ball inside a locking mechanism that when a forward impact or the Jeep's steep angle cause the ball to roll or be thrown out of its normal position, the seat belt locks up.
So in other words, to properly test his seat belts he needs to strap someone into the back seat (preferably an enemy) and then run his Jeep into something like say...a tree?
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i have two carseats in the back of my TJ and in the back there is ancher hooks.
Are these hooks you are referring to the ones bolted to the floor board under the rear seat? Is that what you are supposed to hook the LATCH attachment hooks from the car seat to?
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Nevermind. After thinking about it, the "hooks" on my floor board dont look like they'd hold much. They can't be bolted to anything more than the floor I'm guessing. Not tied into the frame or anything.
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anyone else have any advise? i haven't had a chance to call the dealer yet.
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yeah, the buckle locks, i was talking about even after pulling the belt as far out as it will go, it still doesn't lock. i guess i'm afraid of them falling out of the belts if something bad happens...
Off road much? I guess you've never been on those really steep trails where you desperately need to lean forward to see down the hood, and for the love of all that is holy, you simply can't do it because your belt is locked up tight. As soon as you straighten out, all is well.
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anyone else have any advise? i haven't had a chance to call the dealer yet.
Yes, not to be a dick, but if you haven't already done so, read the manual that came with the car seat. As others have said, there's a clip that comes with the car seat that you need to use that holds the lap belt in place. The clip is a little smaller than a credit card, metal, and has a slot on each side.
Buckle the seat in as normal using both the lap and shoulder belt, then put the clip on the side of the seat that is opposite the seatbelt receiver. Note: THIS IS A PAIN IN THE ASS TO DO PROPERLY, but the belt needs to be tight to keep the seat from moving more than an inch side-side. Put your knee and moderate weight in the car seat while installing the clip to make it tight. If the seat moves more than an inch side-side, take it to a fire department where they will likely have a licensed child seat installer.

EDIT: Just noticed you have an 06. If the belts are being a problem, doesn't your 06 have the LATCH system?
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no offense taken o.c.d. don't know about the "latch system"
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LATCH is great and makes car seat installation easier. It still needs to be in tight, but it makes getting it in tight easier to do. Google LATCH system, I THINK your Jeep should have the anchors although I'm not sure. After google searching it, check your Jeep's owners manual and see where the anchors are located. Your car seat should have the LATCH teathers already with it; if it doesn't, get a new car seat. Trust me, it makes this whole process much quicker and easier to do a safe install although you'll still need to use your knee to put some weight into the seat while tightening the teathers. Most important thing is that it's in tight, I cringe at the way I see how loose some car seats are installed. Then again, at least they're using one.
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I have an '06 and a new granddaughter that will visit in spring. I checked my seatbelts and they do not work like my other vehicles. The other vehicles have you put the lap belt over the car seat, then pull the shoulder belt all the way out until it starts to ratchet. Then, you let it loose and pull it tight and it stays in place, held ther by the retracting mechanism.

The 06 (and probably others) use a different method. Put the lap belt over the car seat. Then pull on the shoulder belt to tighten the lap part of the belt. The belt side of the buckle is designed to hold the belt tight!

From the owner's manual:

The passenger seat belts are equipped with cinching
latch plates designed to keep the lap portion or lap belt
tight around the child restraint so that it is not
necessary to use a locking clip. Pull up on the shoulder
portion of the lap/shoulder belt, or on the free end of
the lap belt to tighten the belt. The cinching latch plate
will keep the belt tight, however, any seat belt system
will loosen with time, so check the belt occasionally
and pull it tight if necessary.
• In the rear seat, you may have trouble tightening the
lap belt or lap/shoulder belt on the child restraint
because the buckle or latch plate is too close to the belt
path opening on the restraint. Disconnect the latch
plate from the buckle and twist the short buckle-end
belt several times to shorten it. Insert the latch plate
into the buckle with the release button facing out.
• If the belt still cannot be tightened, or if pulling and
pushing on the restraint loosens the belt, disconnect
the latch plate from the buckle, turn the buckle
around, and insert the latch plate into the buckle
again. If you still cannot make the child restraint
secure, try a different seating position.
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Some seat belts can lock others don't. When you bought you car seat you might remember it came with some extra belts and rings and clips. These were for cars that didn't properly secure the car seat when added. You may or may not have them but you can contact the car seat maker and possibly get some replacements. I had four kids and never did I trust the adult seat belt to lock. I used the car seats extra anchor which reallysecured the seat well.
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Rear seat belts no longer locking

I have a similar problem with my 2002 Wrangler. The drivers seatbelt will lock when yanked hard whereas the passenger side and rear seatbelts do not. I talked to a friend of mine who works for dealership and he gave me one possible solution. When you pull the seatbelt hard, two metal clamps lock up on the seatbelt making it lock in place, keeping your butt in the seat in a stop short situation. Often times, especially when you dont use the seatbelts often, these plates can seize up, rendering them useless. He also said that this problem is particularly common with jeep wranglers and other convertables because moisture and humidity compounds the problem and I have had my fair share of getting caught in the rain with the top down, etc. If this is the case, there are two solutions. One, take the seatbelt housing appart and locate these two metal clamps. If you can free them up and get a little lube or WD40 in there to free them up you are golden. Option #2 is to replace the seatbelt altogether. The parts can sometimes be purchased through your favorite autoparts dealer, or directly from the dealership. It isnt too terribly difficult to do if you have a torx wrench and possibly an impact drill as you will probably find they tend to be too tight to remove with a standard rachet set. The seatbelt can be removed by removing 3 bolts. One at the housing, one at the shoulder belt anchor, and one more on the side of the seat. I also discovered this problem when I tried installing a car seat in my back seat, which rarely gets used, only to find that the seatbelts dont lock. I have not tried this fix yet so I am not sure how well this will work, but this will be this weekends project. Good luck and hope this helps.

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