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Old 03-13-2009, 09:57 PM   #1
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Rear Shocks Rubbing At Spring Perch

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My rear shocks were rubbing at the lower spring perch. I cutted a bit off the spring perch and it was ok. With the SYE and the adj. CAs it will rub again.
What can I do?
Rear shock relocation brackets arenīt available over here.

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Did you already flip your shocks?

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Nicolas, that's a common problem when you lift a TJ. Just cut the entire round section out of the back of your coil buckets and you should be fine. It won't hurt your springs at all.
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Did you already flip your shocks?
hes got OME nitrochargers.. i doubt flipping them will work
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hes got OME nitrochargers.. i doubt flipping them will work
Gotcha.

You could cut the weather guard off.
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Gotcha.

You could cut the weather guard off.
x2.. if all else fails though.. try cutting the coil buckets more first.. if your worried about the coils slipping off then you could always get aftermarket coil isolators
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Flip the shocks? Their mountings look different onboth sides. I donīt think that this would work.

Then I will cut a bit more away from the spring perch. I hope that will work.

Btw. I already damaged the shocks. But they still work.

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Flip the shocks? Their mountings look different onboth sides. I donīt think that this would work.

Then I will cut a bit more away from the spring perch. I hope that will work.

Btw. I already damaged the shocks. But they still work.

i doubt you actually damaged the shock itself.. that part looks to just be a metal "rubber" weather boot.. i may be wrong though but you could probably cut it off..

flipping them would just make them worse.. i already mentioned that above =p
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nico... I have bielstiens which are inverted.. you can flip it upside down to hve inverted also.. but you may have to cut off the dust cap.
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Why can't you get relocation brackets? Are they unavailable or not legal?

If its an availability thing let me know I'll buy 'em and ship 'em to your side of the pond.
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They are not available here in Germany..
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I would flip the shocks over. The rear shocks are the same top and bottom, you only need to remove the bar pin that goes through the top bushing to insert it into the bottom bushing and then flip it. That will give you more clearance.

Shock relocation brackets are not always a good thing as their added length gives rocks more leverage against where the OE bracket is welded to the axle which can cause it to tear off. Or the shock relocation bracket can actually be bent, also due to its added length.

His nitrogen-charged shocks should work ok upside down, my nitrogen-charged RE Monotube shocks are fine and they are running upside-down in the rear for the same issue. In fact, I've had at least 5 different shocks both gas and hydraulic and all worked fine upside-down, those that don't are in the minority.
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I go wheeling only in deep mud and I donīt wat to cut the thing that 4point called "weather guard" of the shock.

Perhaps cutting away the rear of the spring perch will be enough.
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I would flip the shocks over. The rear shocks are the same top and bottom, you only need to remove the bar pin that goes through the top bushing to insert it into the bottom bushing and then flip it. That will give you more clearance.

Shock relocation brackets are not always a good thing as their added length gives rocks more leverage against where the OE bracket is welded to the axle which can cause it to tear off. Or the shock relocation bracket can actually be bent, also due to its added length.

His nitrogen-charged shocks should work ok upside down, my nitrogen-charged RE Monotube shocks are fine and they are running upside-down in the rear for the same issue. In fact, I've had at least 5 different shocks both gas and hydraulic and all worked fine upside-down, those that don't are in the minority.
he still has the dust cap on it though.. i still dont get how flippin the shock will help.. the shafts on our RE monotubes have a rubber cover on them and not metal like his.. please explain what you mean by flipping his OMEs will give him more clearance?
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The dust cover on his Bilsteins should be able to be removed somehow, they're not a functional part of the shock. Faced with this problem, I wouldn't hesitate to remove it.
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Old 03-16-2009, 02:42 PM   #16
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He has OME's with the metal boot.
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Oh, I thought they had a plastic boot... but still, that boot cannot be removed even with a little ingenuity?
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^^ id use a dremel, and cut it.. its just a dust cover.. the seal should stop the dirt from going in
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What is the purpose of flipping the shocks?
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Dremels are cute, It would work too.
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The purpose is the shock is a lot smaller around at the shaft than at the lower charged tube.Flip it with out the shield and it will give you over an inch more clearance.
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jerry im surprised you just didnt recommend that d44 truss kit.. it would relocate your shocks a tad bit nico.. and add extra strength to your axle
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Shock relocation brackets are not always a good thing as their added length gives rocks more leverage against where the OE bracket is welded to the axle which can cause it to tear off. Or the shock relocation bracket can actually be bent, also due to its added length.
So what's the difference in everyone else's shock relocation brackets and the ones that you just put on yours?

Flipping shocks, brackets, blah blah blah. Best way to cure this is just to cut the back of the coil bucket. Keeps everything where it needs to be without rubbing or relocating. 10 minutes with a cut off wheel and you are golden.
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Well nico my offer still stands, in fact I'd be willing to trade for some parts that I can't get here for my '74 Vespa smallframe. (The big problem is my german is lacking and SIP isn't very 'english friendly'

Let me know if you want 'em and I can make it happen. We can go threw paypal and I won't expect payment 'til you get 'em.

Then you can get me a PK stator assembly.

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