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Old 12-12-2013, 08:30 AM   #1
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recommendations with a lift kit

Howdy everyone, i just had a 2.5 inch skyjacker lift kit installed on my 97 TJ about a month ago. After driving around i realized i was getting death wobbles every once in a while. I just got a transfer case lowering kit to help with the problem and am going to have everything tightened up front by the end of this week. Hopefully once the christmas season has passed I'll be able to invest in an sye to truly fix the problem. So i was wondering what kind of sye would you recommend and are there any other parts you suggest I invest in to improve the lift kits function and durability. I plan on moving up to 31 or 32 inch tires soon, but I don't want to overstuff my wheel wells and I want to make sure my suspension is up to par before i invest in tires.

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Old 12-12-2013, 09:05 AM   #2
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I would have your alignment checked. While a SYE and t-case drop are all good to do after a lift, they won't help with the alignment angles that have now been changed after lifting the vehicle. Caster and toe should be checked after it's been verified that the front end is tight. Good luck!

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Lowing your tcase might help with drive line vibrations but it has nothing to do with death wobble.
Read the stickies regarding death wobble and how to diagnose/fix.
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Lowing your tcase might help with drive line vibrations but it has nothing to do with death wobble.
Read the stickies regarding death wobble and how to diagnose/fix.
X2 Death Wobble has to do with steering/ suspension/ tires/ and wheels in the front end.......Vibes that are fixed with TC drop/ SYE drive shafts/ etc is a whole other animal.
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Alright sounds good thanks! Im not too skilled mechanically but ive been reading as much as possible about wranglers and i must have mixed up the diagnosis for the different vibrations. Ill get the realignment done ASAP
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As others have said, the two have nothing to do with each other. Typically, with only 2.5" of lift, you shouldn't have to worry about a tc drop or an SYE.
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If your "alignment doesn't fix it" rotate tires...front to rear and see if it gets better...have tires balanced first though.....IMO....... A LOT not all of the times if parts are not OBVIOUSLY WORN, it is tires or wheels causing the issue. I think that is why so many people change so many parts and then check the tires.
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Got the alignment done and it helped, but i just realized my steering stabilizer is shot and thats the real culprit. I have a new one and will be installing it in the morning. Hopefully this will be goodbye death wobble.
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Got the alignment done and it helped, but i just realized my steering stabilizer is shot and thats the real culprit. I have a new one and will be installing it in the morning. Hopefully this will be goodbye death wobble.
The steering stabilizer is never the reason for DW. It can help mask it. Most of the time DW is the reason why the stab goes bad in the first place. Focus your attention somewhere else.
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Alright well i just got the alignment done yesterday and i havent driven alot so hopefully thats all it needed, if and when i experience the wobble again ill go back and check the front axle again. I did ask them to tighten everything up when i brought it in, so if it was anything loose hopefully they got that.
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Once i got the steering stabilizer on there are practically no vibes left. The alignment seemed to take away most of it and the steering stabilizer got rid of the last little bit left. But on another note are there any parts anyone would recommend getting for my suspension to make it a better overall system?
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The steering stabilizer is never the reason for DW. It can help mask it. Most of the time DW is the reason why the stab goes bad in the first place. Focus your attention somewhere else.
I am reposting and adding to this for your safety......the "steering stabilizer" is designed to help with pot holes or LARGE uneven holes on the road.

If it is HIDING your DW IMO one of 2 things is going on:
1.) You didn't have DW
2.) It is only a matter of time until the "Brand New" steering stabilizer is worn out, in addition to whatever worn parts that truly is causing the DW are more worn and you are worse off than you were to start with.

There are SEVERAL discussions of DW in this Forum...and it shows every part that is a possible cause and how to check and how to fix. And one of the first things that is covered is a SS does not fix DW.

Good LUCK!!!!
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I am reposting and adding to this for your safety......the "steering stabilizer" is designed to help with pot holes or LARGE uneven holes on the road.

If it is HIDING your DW IMO one of 2 things is going on:
1.) You didn't have DW
2.) It is only a matter of time until the "Brand New" steering stabilizer is worn out, in addition to whatever worn parts that truly is causing the DW are more worn and you are worse off than you were to start with.

There are SEVERAL discussions of DW in this Forum...and it shows every part that is a possible cause and how to check and how to fix. And one of the first things that is covered is a SS does not fix DW.

Good LUCK!!!!
And I will add more.

In PlanMan's writeup.the first step to diagnose DW is to remove the stabilizer to free up worn parts.


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Old 12-17-2013, 08:43 AM   #14
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Alright thank you i will check around the forums! Hopefully it was just the alignment that i needed
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Old 12-25-2013, 11:31 PM   #15
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Still on the same note of the front axle and it's parts would something like an extended track bar be a good idea over the stock one? I'm not asking because of the death wobble; but would the extended trackbar improve the geometry of the lifted tj so it would put less stress on the system, or is 2.5 inches of lift not enough for the change in geometry to really affect it?
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2.5" is right on the cusp of needing one. You could get by without an adj. one, but if you're particular about your jeep, get one (JKS or MC).
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Think about this.....

What does the output configuration of the transfer case remotely have to do with the front suspension and steering?

Two completely separate subjects there.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:06 AM   #18
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Alright i was looking at the jks so im probably going to order one tonight than, hurrah for christmas money!
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:09 AM   #19
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And Imped ive realized my previous mistakes but what i thought was because the shaft from the transfer case attached to the front axle the change in its geometry could send vibrations through the whole system
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slow down bud, lets find out actual issues before you blow all of your "christmas money"

do you have any rear driveline vibes or just front end vibes?
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:53 AM   #21
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Ive had only front vibes, right now i have none but im assuming its because of the new steering stabilizer i have in there that may be masking any i have left after tge allignment. But like i said im not buying this because of the death wobble but because i want to just improve the geometry of anything that may be stressed from the lift. My lift kit came with a piece to fix the rear trackbar's geometry but not the front end
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:59 AM   #22
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if you dont have rear vibes, dont worry about the SYE and new DS. thats $500 you dont need to spend

i'd start by removing the stabilizer and seeing how it rides. you may be set and not need to do anything to finish the previous job and then you can focus on the next steps

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