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Old 10-31-2008, 03:14 PM   #1
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Is around a thousand bucks a decent price for parts and instillation? This is what i was quoted from 4 wheel parts.
how hard is it to do yourself?
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:41 PM   #2
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sounds like a fair price. as for doing it yourself its not easy to do.

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requires special tools, a press, and ability to use the tools. not recomended for shade tree mechanic. thats a fair price, my shop charges around $1200 and up.
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If you have never done it yourself, best let the pros do it.
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Definitely leave a R&P installation to someone who knows what they're doing. I do pretty much all my TJ's work but I'll leave that kind of a job to the experts. If the R&P gears aren't installed perfectly, they'll be toast in short order.

And a 4WP store quoted only $1000 to regear both axles? Are you sure that included everything? Most 4WP stores charge a LOT more than that, often closer to $1700-1800 though more typical from a non-4WP shop is closer to $1100 to $1200.
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ya, let me clarify, out here, we charge around that for one axle.
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wow really that much? they just did my buddies yj for between 1k-1.1k both axles
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well first off it really varies by location. i have a local backyard mechanic who used to do hotrods re-gear my axles. he charges around $300 bucks per axle plus parts so i guess with everything said and done i save a little bit. if your interested in finding a guy at least to get a second quote i would check out your local auto parts store and talk to guys there see if they know any good backyard mechanics. i know your going to say that four-wheel parts is a better guarantee because if something goes wrong. i don't know what there policy is on that stuff but i do know a lot of four-wheel shops that don't cover anything because they will always find a way to say driver error or you beat on it too hard. if this is true i would go with the backyard mechanic and save the cash.
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I got a quote from 4wheel parts about 2 weeks ago to make my D44 4:11's turn into 4:88's. Parts and labor was 1245. I ground em down pretty good to get it there, but that's where I got em to. Is there a price diff between doing locking and non-locking diffs?
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wow really that much? they just did my buddies yj for between 1k-1.1k both axles
yup around 6 hrs at 105/hr, and with parts marked up its just over a grand parts and labor per axle.
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well i dont need to regear too bad, i think it will have to wait at least 6 months, i would rather spend that money on tires, thay have good deals on their pro-comp tires, buy 3 get one free, about 850 for 5 mud terrains
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well i dont need to regear too bad, i think it will have to wait at least 6 months, i would rather spend that money on tires, thay have good deals on their pro-comp tires, buy 3 get one free, about 850 for 5 mud terrains
and youll be replacing them Pro Junk MTs after 5000 miles for another 850 bucks. Worst tire I ever owned. Slid in the rain, spun in the mud, horrible in snow, wore out in 8 months. what gears do you have know?
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we always regear our own axles and i actually just paid a rearend shop to regear my new axle swap b/c i wanted them to be perfect.........its always good to go with the pros even if they wont back up a warranty b/c they do it every day........i would find a local racing shop and have who they have set your gears up.......i had mind done with lockers front/rear for the same price....well full spool rear and locker front in a 9"/d44 combo
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and youll be replacing them Pro Junk MTs after 5000 miles for another 850 bucks. Worst tire I ever owned. Slid in the rain, spun in the mud, horrible in snow, wore out in 8 months. what gears do you have know?
hmm they pretty much copied lug pattern of the bfg m/t's and i had those and they were great, you would think that it would perform similar.
What about the Xterrains, i heard they're pretty good tires.
and i have the stock gearing right now
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I have a friend that has the Xtreme A/T's (Claw look a likes) on his XJ. They work great on the rocks... I donno about the street as it's a trail only rig.
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most shops are around $300-$400 per axle for the labor parts are around $500 thats for just the ring and pinions on both axles and the install kit
add another $100 or more peraxle for a new carrier if needed
if you got qoted about $1000 to regear both axles then take it
thats cheap

I had the procomp xterrains they rode better on the street then my mtr's and my current big horns
I got 25'000 out of my set ant thats with heavy rock use and with a spool in the rear axle
they grab very well in the rocks I never had a problem with them
a friend ran them and they didnt last him as long as they did me
and he hated the handling on the street he only got 15,000 miles out of his set
but the mtr's he had he only got 10,000 miles out of them and he hated those more then the procomps
he now has the pitbull growlers and so far likes them better then both the procomp and the mtr's
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hmm they pretty much copied lug pattern of the bfg m/t's and i had those and they were great, you would think that it would perform similar.
What about the Xterrains, i heard they're pretty good tires.
and i have the stock gearing right now
I used to be with ProComp's parent company and I wouldn't run ProComp tires if they were given to me. Really. In fact, they offered me a set of 35" Xtremes or MTs to run on my TJ for free since part of my job was to visit potential customers. I turned them down after having learned how long they last and hold up, not very well at all in my personal opinion. Plus, they're made by Cooper who now makes most of their tires in China. Not where I want my tires to be coming from.
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hmm they pretty much copied lug pattern of the bfg m/t's and i had those and they were great, you would think that it would perform similar.
What about the Xterrains, i heard they're pretty good tires.
and i have the stock gearing right now
Not sure about the Xterrains, I switched to BFG AT's and they still look new. Like Jerry said (who not only knows a couple things, but knows Pro Comps suck, I wouldnt get if they were giving to me.)What stock gears do you have? Have you checked?
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no, how do i check? open up the differential?
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no, how do i check? open up the differential?
The gear ratio is embossed into a steel tag held between two bolt at the 9 o'clock position of the differential cover. It'll say something like "3 07" or "3 73" which of course means 3.07 or 3.73. Have a rag to wipe the tag off & a flashlight so you can read it when you go look.
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Echoing what others are saying about procomps...I have a set of 35x12.5x15 MT's and they suck. Worse than slicks in the wet, and the rocks rip em up pretty badly. I guess they do ok in the sand, but I imagine some coopers or remingtons would too...

As soon as I'm done getting 35% of my monies worth out of em (they'll be done with about 10-12k on em), I'm going away and never going back.
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Echoing what others are saying about procomps...I have a set of 35x12.5x15 MT's and they suck. Worse than slicks in the wet, and the rocks rip em up pretty badly. I guess they do ok in the sand, but I imagine some coopers or remingtons would too...

As soon as I'm done getting 35% of my monies worth out of em (they'll be done with about 10-12k on em), I'm going away and never going back.


guess Im not the only one who had the same results. your sig cracks me up. I am a union plumber/pipefitter, but I cant afford to change tires every 10k. Thats why Ill never buy them again.
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My sig cracks you up cuz you live so close to canada, eh? You hosers up there crack me up too

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as far as im concerned we can give you michiganers back to canada......anyhow my take on procomp tires is that they are a much harder compound than bfg of any breed........i have heard alot of good things about them on road and do not think much of them off road.......i have ran the mts and the xts and they both are not good on any east coast terrain......i am a tsl man so i am biased.....no pun intended

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