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Old 12-18-2013, 12:31 AM   #1
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Removing rear sway bar, permanently?

So I'm trying to finish up my 2003 Rubi build at budget before I leave town for good. I've got a 2" lift, winch, flat fenders and 33" tires, now I'm ordering control arms, new shocks, and a front sway bar disconnect, the mechanic says I can just throw out the rear sway bar and not have any real issues with stability or on road handling, this instead of an actual disconnect.

Does any one have any opinions on doing this? I know a jeep is not a race car and I don't drive mine like one, I like to go exploring and am more concerned with off road ability than on road ability

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Your "mechanic" is an idiot.

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Not trying to add fuel to the fire... But my 06 doesn't have a rear sway bar... It's an SE. So what would be the difference ?? Just wondering?
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bump... i asked the same question to my build guys the other day... id like an answer. specially if its you second vehicle why not flex it out?
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I mean if some models don't come from the factory with one... Like mine. What can it hurt .... Am I right or wrong??
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Not trying to add fuel to the fire... But my 06 doesn't have a rear sway bar... It's an SE. So what would be the difference ?? Just wondering?
It should have one and came from the factory with one.


The rear sway bar is too light to effect your articulation ability on a mostly stock suspension. It offers better stability both on and off road, helping to keep your tires on the ground and your body level with the ground. People only run aftermarket ones like Currie in the back when their stock one doesn't fit due to a major modification like a wheelbase stretch.

A proper weight rear sway bar (like a stock one is) will actually help your jeep perform offroad and make it safer on road.

EDIT: Didn't know some 4cyclinders didn't come with a rear sway bar! Thanks Imped
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It should have one and came from the factory with one.

The rear sway bar is too light to effect your articulation ability on a mostly stock suspension. It offers better stability both on and off road, helping to keep your tires on the ground and your body level with the ground. People only run aftermarket ones like Currie in the back when their stock one doesn't fit due to a major modification like a wheelbase stretch.
Nope. No rear sway bar. Just recently put some rubicon coils under it and nothing there.....
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Not trying to add fuel to the fire... But my 06 doesn't have a rear sway bar... It's an SE. So what would be the difference ?? Just wondering?
Some 4 cylinder TJ's didn't come with rear sway bars and the reasoning can be argued. IMO, they should have come with them.
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bump... i asked the same question to my build guys the other day... id like an answer. specially if its you second vehicle why not flex it out?
The word "flex" is tossed around like a pinata without the first clue as to what it actually stands for.

What limits your droop? Hint: It's not the rear sway bar.

I guarantee my TJ "flexes" a lot more than anyone else's in this thread. I have front and rear sway bars and never disconnect either one and it's not just a coincidence.

If you want to be introduced to the technical side of sway bars, read this thread: anti rock or quick discos

That's a light intro and also could've easily been found by some quick and easy searching.
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Another good thread: Antirock Engineering Lesson
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Does any one have any opinions on doing this?
find a new mechanic.

even better, learn and do the work yourself.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:05 AM   #11
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Well that seems universal, on both forums -- I think I'll leave the rear on, and go with an anti rock somewhere down the road, but keep the front disco.

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X2 on the sound advice to leave the rear antiswaybar on, and installing a front Antirock would be a good thing. That is how I run my TJ and it works exceptionally well.

To illustrate that a rear antiswaybar does NOT reduce usable axle flex, the below photo shows the rear of John Currie's Fireant TJ that won the ARCA national rock crawling championship. You can see it has a rear Antirock antiswaybar, and of course there was one up front too.

And yep, that mechanic was an idiot for advising you to remove the rear antiswaybar... at least he is on TJ suspensions.
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OK my 0.02 here. I removed mine when I found the bushings to be shot and I did notice a little more body roll in the drive to and from work. After getting all the parts I put it back in and I have to say, I like the ride much better, hardly any body roll on the road and I do not notice it off road.
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After talking with the mechanic a little more what he actually said was leave the bar off not take the bar off, I guess I've been driving around without one all this time.

I guess that means when I go to get a rear anti rock that will be an on road improvement too. Thanks for all the comments and pointing me to threads that talk about the anti rock, which is had never heard of.
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Just install a factory rear OE antiswaybar, you can find them cheap in junkyards or sometimes online from people parting out Jeeps. Currie's rear (front too of course) antiswaybar is great but it's not cheap & the rear factory antiswaybar is fine for 99% of us. It's a fast easy installation.
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A factory rear will be cheaper and easier to install.

A rear AR will perform even better but costs much more and doesn't just bolt up.
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How much does an anti rock rear cost general average?
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I'd leave it on, it doesn't hurt anything. But as long as you don't drive like a teenage girl, you should be fine without one too.. Just remember a lifted tj is like driving with a swimming pool in the back seat
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Around $400 give or take on where you buy it . Like said above go stock them guys don't give bad advice ..
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Why don't you check Currie's site.....
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Why don't you check Currie's site.....
Because I was looking for an installed price not a unit price as people in this thread have already said "it's not bolt on".
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I'd leave it on, it doesn't hurt anything. But as long as you don't drive like a teenage girl, you should be fine without one too.. Just remember a lifted tj is like driving with a swimming pool in the back seat
People's generalizations of how a TJ should handle really pisses me off for some reason. That's great, maybe yours drives like a boat, but not everyone's does. Contrary to popular belief you can have a lifted Jeep that handles very well and is tight on the road.
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Because I was looking for an installed price not a unit price as people in this thread have already said "it's not bolt on".
What I charge is a lot different than what your standard 'shop' will charge. I'd probably charge about $60 to install because it would take me no longer than two hours.
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People's generalizations of how a TJ should handle really pisses me off for some reason. That's great, maybe yours drives like a boat, but not everyone's does. Contrary to popular belief you can have a lifted Jeep that handles very well and is tight on the road.
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That's just ridiculous.
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People's generalizations of how a TJ should handle really pisses me off for some reason. That's great, maybe yours drives like a boat, but not everyone's does. Contrary to popular belief you can have a lifted Jeep that handles very well and is tight on the road.
I doubt that.
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I doubt that.
You doubt that a lifted Jeep can handle fine? Really?
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You doubt that a lifted Jeep can handle fine? Really?
No no no... It can handle "fine" but it's a jeep not a sports car. From stock it never handled well.
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No no no... It can handle "fine" but it's a jeep not a sports car. From stock it never handled well.
You can make a lifted jeep handle better than stock. I know mine does.
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You can make a lifted jeep handle better than stock. I know mine does.
Maybe I phrased that wrong, no matter what you do to a jeep wrangler. It will never handle like a sports car.

This is why I have a trans am ws6, and a jeep. Best of both worlds.
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I love WS6's like a man loves his dog but I think you'd be very surprised if you drove a well setup Jeep like mine. No, it doesn't handle like a WS6 but it's considerably more impressive than stock, especially considering the size of it and preconceived notions that come along with it. I can sling it around corners and drive it like I drive my Civic SI (which handles far better than any WS6 I've driven....WAY more chassis than motor) with no repercussions. It's not a "sports car" but it's just as fun.
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Mine handles fairly well, within limitations of the short wheelbase. I'd say it handles at least as well as my last pickup.

Over all I enjoy driving it, and I much prefer it over my wife's Grand Wagoneer.

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