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Old 10-06-2012, 03:41 PM   #1
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Removing Skid Plate

In preparation of changing my transmission and xfer case fluids (everything is on order) I attempted to remove my skid pate. While doing so I had 2 bolts (middle on each side) just spin. The remaining 4 come out just fine but I don't know how to get those middle 2 off. I'm not too concerned about getting them back in as I don't offroad much and I think the remaining 4 should hold it. Any suggestions?

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Old 10-06-2012, 05:43 PM   #2
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cut them off

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Old 10-06-2012, 05:53 PM   #3
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Yeah I would guess the nuts that are supposed to be welded to the frame either rusted out and arent connected to the frame anymore or they simply broke. Im sure you know but make sure to support the transmission with something like a jack before u take the skid down. Its all connected, just making sure because I saw a guy on here who wasn't aware of this!
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:10 AM   #4
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Yeah, I read quite a few threads on removing it before taking the plunge.
What would you suggest using to cut them?
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In preparation of changing my transmission and xfer case fluids (everything is on order) I attempted to remove my skid pate. While doing so I had 2 bolts (middle on each side) just spin. The remaining 4 come out just fine but I don't know how to get those middle 2 off. I'm not too concerned about getting them back in as I don't offroad much and I think the remaining 4 should hold it. Any suggestions?
This happens to me but all of mine didn't come out. So I just pride on the skid plate down and they came out after awhile. Then just retapped them and put new bolts in
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:04 PM   #6
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Here is how to properly fix the nutserts which are loose:

Nutsert for Transfer Case Removal and Install - JeepForum.com

For the spinning bolts, I typically use an angle grinder or similar to cut them off. You can follow the guide from there and install new nutserts.

You don't need to buy them from the dealer any more though; Blaine from Savvy is selling them:

87-06 YJ and TJ Transfer case skid plate nutsert replacement kit.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:20 PM   #7
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Do it right and replace the bad bolts. Don't make the next owner find the hard way you cheaped out on a repair!
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:48 PM   #8
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Here is how to properly fix the nutserts which are loose:

Nutsert for Transfer Case Removal and Install - JeepForum.com

For the spinning bolts, I typically use an angle grinder or similar to cut them off. You can follow the guide from there and install new nutserts.

You don't need to buy them from the dealer any more though; Blaine from Savvy is selling them:

87-06 YJ and TJ Transfer case skid plate nutsert replacement kit.
Awesome didn't know they had a replacement kit for this. THANKS !!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:09 PM   #9
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I was wondering the same thing. Glad I read this and saw they make a kit.
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:18 PM   #10
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Wish I knew this about 4 weeks ago when I did so I could of did it right. No big deal will redo it and right this time
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Do it right and replace the bad bolts. Don't make the next owner find the hard way you cheaped out on a repair!
Yes agreed!!!!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:26 PM   #12
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Do it right and replace the bad bolts. Don't make the next owner find the hard way you cheaped out on a repair!
Now that I know there is a kit and steps to fix the issue I will do it right. Although I don't intend on there being a "next" owner!!
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The "kit" from Blaine is relatively new. Up until a few months ago you would have to go to the dealer and pay somewhere around $9-$15 a piece for each nutsert, which I've had to do already. Blaine had been looking for sometime, and finally managed to get a source for them. Even better is the low price. If you want someone to thank, send Blaine a thank you note; he goes by Black Magic Brakes on this forum and mrblaine on JeepForum.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:47 AM   #14
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I just bought a repair kit from Black Magic. They got it out the door super quick and you can't beat the price. Waaaaaaay cheaper than the dealer and high quality stuff to do the job right. I would recommend them 100%.

I would like some opinions....Would you guys replace all 6 even if only 2-3 were spinning. I kinda wanna use 2 for my little transmission skid plate. Those two smaller nutserts are stripped also.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:51 AM   #15
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If the others seem to be in good condition, then it's up to you. On my 98 TJ I just replaced the bad ones because I was in a hurry, but you could always be proactive and replace everything. Can't really go wrong either way.
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This happens to me but all of mine didn't come out. So I just pride on the skid plate down and they came out after awhile. Then just retapped them and put new bolts in
What did you pry them with? Also, if I'm understanding you correctly the prying must have put enough pressure on the nutsert that it wouldn't spin allowing you to back the bolt out. Is the correct?

I'm really in a bind now though because I attempted to cut one of them out and I decided to use an angle grinder (which I think may have been a mistake). I was able to get most of the head off but I can't grind it down enough to get the plate off. Now I just have it flattened down to be even with the plate itself. Any suggestions on where to go from here?
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What did you pry them with? Also, if I'm understanding you correctly the prying must have put enough pressure on the nutsert that it wouldn't spin allowing you to back the bolt out. Is the correct?

I'm really in a bind now though because I attempted to cut one of them out and I decided to use an angle grinder (which I think may have been a mistake). I was able to get most of the head off but I can't grind it down enough to get the plate off. Now I just have it flattened down to be even with the plate itself. Any suggestions on where to go from here?
I just kept prying down with a pry bar and turning the bolts. in hopes it would in screw but it didn't work they just stripped out. It took me a long time to get them out.
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I'm really in a bind now though because I attempted to cut one of them out and I decided to use an angle grinder (which I think may have been a mistake). I was able to get most of the head off but I can't grind it down enough to get the plate off. Now I just have it flattened down to be even with the plate itself. Any suggestions on where to go from here?
Since I've ground the bolt flush with the plate, would it make sense to try and drill the bolt out?
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:25 PM   #19
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You could but be careful that you don't drill it off center.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:20 AM   #20
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Are you able to drop the skid plate away from the frame at all? In the past I've usually been able to get just enough room between the skid plate and the frame that I could slide a cutting wheel on my angle grinder in there and cut the bolt in order to drop the skid.
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Are you able to drop the skid plate away from the frame at all? In the past I've usually been able to get just enough room between the skid plate and the frame that I could slide a cutting wheel on my angle grinder in there and cut the bolt in order to drop the skid.
Sadly on the side I've ground flat I can't pull it down at all. (not sure about the other side) I have a small pry bar that I tried to wedge in there but didn't have much luck. Sadly I'm thinking I may need to speak with a professional because as the weather gets colder it's beginning to shift harder, which is the reason I'm trying to change the tranny fluid.

I did also try to drill the bolt out, got about 3mm in and couldn't go any further, the bolt was too hard. I'm guessing there is probably a better type of drill bit that will get through, if so let me know.

All I can say is I bought a jeep to learn how to do some of my own mechanical work and its kinda sad I got stuck at changing the transmission fluid.
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Just leave the skid plate on and drain the trans fluid on it. There are holes in the skid plate the fluid will drain through. If you took it in to have the trans fluid changed they probably wouldn't take the skid plate off.
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572's suggestion is an option; along with that you can also leave the skid on and use tinfoil pans to catch and direct the fluid where you want it to go. I've done that in the past; if you leave part of the foil pan hanging over the edge, you can put a hole in that end and place a catch pan underneath to catch the draining fluid.
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Drain it without removing the skid plate. If there is no head on the bolt for the skid plate, can you pry on the skid plate now and get it to slide over the bolt stud? You have already partially removed the other studs on that side right?
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Just leave the skid plate on and drain the trans fluid on it. There are holes in the skid plate the fluid will drain through. If you took it in to have the trans fluid changed they probably wouldn't take the skid plate off.
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572's suggestion is an option; along with that you can also leave the skid on and use tinfoil pans to catch and direct the fluid where you want it to go. I've done that in the past; if you leave part of the foil pan hanging over the edge, you can put a hole in that end and place a catch pan underneath to catch the draining fluid.
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Drain it without removing the skid plate. If there is no head on the bolt for the skid plate, can you pry on the skid plate now and get it to slide over the bolt stud? You have already partially removed the other studs on that side right?

Thank you, I did not realize you could change the transmission fluid without removing the skid plate. Can I also change the transfercase fluid without removing as well?

Alaska - I am going to purchase a better pry bar this week and try that, the one I have now sucks. I also plan on buying a cutting wheel for my angle grinder so if I can't pry it over the bolt maybe I can pry it down enough to get the cutting wheel in to try and cut the bolt.

Thank you all for trying to help. If the prying over the bolt and the prying enough to cut the bolt options don't work I will probably just change the transmission fluid through the skid plate. Obviously that is my main goal and the most important. I was hoping to remove the skid plate because I heard that it makes it easier and I also figured I could do some frame clean up and the transfercase fluid as well. I can tell that there is quite a bit of surface rust that I wanted to get cleaned up before it rusted through; I've read enough stories about skid plates dropping from rusting out.
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Yes, you can change both the transmission fluid and transfer case fluid without removing the skid plate.

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