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Old 04-14-2013, 07:57 PM   #1
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Removing transponder key feature?

Just got an 05 TJ, it came with one key and I am not paying the dealership 130 bucks for another key. My question to everyone here is what would it take (and is it possible in the first place) to remove the transponder key feature from my Rubicon?

If this is possible is is as simple as tricking out the computer in some way and getting a new ignition without the transponder feature? I'm 99% sure it's not that easy, but figured I would ask just the same.

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Just got an 05 TJ, it came with one key and I am not paying the dealership 130 bucks for another key. My question to everyone here is what would it take (and is it possible in the first place) to remove the transponder key feature from my Rubicon?

If this is possible is is as simple as tricking out the computer in some way and getting a new ignition without the transponder feature? I'm 99% sure it's not that easy, but figured I would ask just the same.
Lowes and Walmart make transponder copies. I don't know what the cost is though...

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Was gonna go there tomorrow with the one good key I have and make one (hopefully they have the machine to do it). My main question is, is there any way to fully disable this stupid feature and if possible, would doing so interfere with any other parts of the Jeep?
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At Home Depot I had a duplicate key made for $69,oo
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Was gonna go there tomorrow with the one good key I have and make one (hopefully they have the machine to do it). My main question is, is there any way to fully disable this stupid feature and if possible, would doing so interfere with any other parts of the Jeep?
I don't think it would do any "damage", but with it being so easy to steal, I personally would leave it installed.
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No doubt, I'm of the mindset that the fewer electronically controlled systems in a vehicle (especially an off road one) the better life is. More from a maintenance standpoint anyhow. I'm curious if the transponder system is tied into anything else.
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My understanding is that you need two chipped keys to make duplicates. Another solution I read was that another forum member taped his one good chipped key in his steering colum and used normal non chipped keys from Lowe's and Ace.
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I tried making a regular copy and taping the main transponder key to the underside of the steering column....didn't work.

I only have 1 good transponder key, do I need 2 good transponder keys to get another made at Walfart or Home Depot?
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Just got an 05 TJ, it came with one key and I am not paying the dealership 130 bucks for another key. My question to everyone here is what would it take (and is it possible in the first place) to remove the transponder key feature from my Rubicon?

If this is possible is is as simple as tricking out the computer in some way and getting a new ignition without the transponder feature? I'm 99% sure it's not that easy, but figured I would ask just the same.

Shortly after we got our NEW 04 Sahara home, we woke up one morning to find it missing from it's spot in front of the house. A few steps out into the street and a look to the right revealed it sitting a few houses down where the wannabe thieves has pushed it to try and start it without waking us up.

The Sentry Key system kicked their asses in a serious way. Preventing that one time pretty much made me a much bigger fan of it than I already was.

You are of course very welcome to place whatever value you like on the peace of mind the system creates, but to me, it was priceless.

I would never let lack of foresight and a few pennies worth of keys cause me to do away with a very sound theft prevention system.
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I tried making a regular copy and taping the main transponder key to the underside of the steering column....didn't work.

I only have 1 good transponder key, do I need 2 good transponder keys to get another made at Walfart or Home Depot?

I need a 2nd key too, the directions make it sound like you need two programmed keys to program a blank 3rd... which is dumb. Maybe the dealership can do the program with the cheap copy from the store?
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Black Magic, you prove some compelling points. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I live in a relatively good neighborhood where we all know each other. I would hear the commotion (if my dogs didn't hear it first) and who ever is dumb enough to try to steal one of my trucks better be able to run faster than two rots and my 45.

I read the owners manual that detailed how you can program a new key based off two current ones, but that does me about as much good as a metric socket on a standard bolt since I only have one key. Hopefully Wally world or Home Depot can make me a dupe with the one I have.
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Black Magic, you prove some compelling points. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I live in a relatively good neighborhood where we all know each other. I would hear the commotion (if my dogs didn't hear it first) and who ever is dumb enough to try to steal one of my trucks better be able to run faster than two rots and my 45.

I read the owners manual that detailed how you can program a new key based off two current ones, but that does me about as much good as a metric socket on a standard bolt since I only have one key. Hopefully Wally world or Home Depot can make me a dupe with the one I have.
I lived in a very good neighborhood at that point in time, Capistrano Beach if you are familiar. Old school beach neighborhood overlooking Dana Point Harbor and Doheny Beach.

As far as commotion, I think you underestimate how quietly you can slice a soft top or in this case, slim jim the door open, pop the t-case in neutral and push a rig down the street away from our open second story bedroom windows.

There is also some concern that the current lot of key duplicators do just that, make a clone of the existing key which does not enable the 3rd key programming.

If it makes your 130 cost any more palatable, I own 9 of those keys, 3 for each rig that has the SKIM feature.
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I lived in a very good neighborhood at that point in time, Capistrano Beach if you are familiar. Old school beach neighborhood overlooking Dana Point Harbor and Doheny Beach.

As far as commotion, I think you underestimate how quietly you can slice a soft top or in this case, slim jim the door open, pop the t-case in neutral and push a rig down the street away from our open second story bedroom windows.

There is also some concern that the current lot of key duplicators do just that, make a clone of the existing key which does not enable the 3rd key programming.

If it makes your 130 cost any more palatable, I own 9 of those keys, 3 for each rig that has the SKIM feature.

Not saying your in the wrong at all for having 9 keys, but some of us don't have $1170 to drop on keys.
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Not saying your in the wrong at all for having 9 keys, but some of us don't have $1170 to drop on keys.
I'd imagine he got at least two per vehicle when he bought the Jeeps.
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I'd imagine he got at least two per vehicle when he bought the Jeeps.
Yep, you got it. I got two with each TJ and then purchased an extra.
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Not saying your in the wrong at all for having 9 keys, but some of us don't have $1170 to drop on keys.
It seems like a bunch when you put it that way. Another way to put it is I did not buy them all at once because at no point in time have I been able to plop down 75 grand for 3 vehicles, nor would I finance that many at once.

However, if you told me I could spend 1170 ranging over the years from 99-04 and stop most wannabe thieves for 3 vehicles with a simple factory installed anti-theft system, I'd pay it in a heartbeat. I don't know what your rigs are worth to you, mine are worth a fair bit to me. Especially the one I'm building for my wife.

Do what you like, the system works, is worth keeping viable, and defeating it over a few bucks is fairly silly to me.
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You can easily tape the transponder key inside the steering column. Keep moving the key till you find the sweet spot. It has to be VERY close to the ignition. I have several non transponder keys and this has worked for the last 10 months.
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Wish mine had a Sentry key...you can start my TJ with a f'in screwdriver. So feel lucky that you have it.
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You can easily tape the transponder key inside the steering column. Keep moving the key till you find the sweet spot. It has to be VERY close to the ignition. I have several non transponder keys and this has worked for the last 10 months.
Which would make it more than easy for a thief to hotwire and steal your Jeep. I'm a little more sensitive to the subject of Jeep thefts than some are since my previous '97 TJ was stolen a little over three years ago.
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i work at homedepot in cincinnati, we are unable to make transponder "chipped" keys at my store. but ive heard at some you can. Almost all walmarts you can,but if can you still need two keys to program it so your ignition system recognizes it. i checked with the local dealer and they will program a transponder key for $55 dollars or sell you a transponder key and progran it for $115
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i work at homedepot, we are unable to make transponder "chipped" keys. and if you get one cut at walmart you still need two keys to program it so your ignition system recognizes it. i checked with the local dealer and they will program a transponder key for $55 dollars or sell you a transponder key and progran it for $115
Thanks, looks like I'll be going to the dealer and then making a 2nd copy the cheaper way.
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I haven't done a Chrysler product, but on Fords, if you have 2 keys, you get a new transponder key cut and follow the directions in the owners manual to program your onboard computer tot he key.

But, if you only have one key, it requires a newly cut chip key and a lock shop/dealer with a lap top computer to add the key to your onboard computer program.

Best bet, if you have a chipped key, have at least 3. Then if you loose one, you don't need a key shop/dealer.
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Just got another key made from Wallyworld. Homedepot had a key, but their machine was broken. Works fine now...$60 later. I still miss the days of GM 3 square and oval keys and mechanics in a vehicle vs electronics. I love my Jeeps but sometimes these egg head engineers piss me off with their add on nonsense.
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Just got another key made from Wallyworld. Homedepot had a key, but their machine was broken. Works fine now...$60 later. I still miss the days of GM 3 square and oval keys and mechanics in a vehicle vs electronics. I love my Jeeps but sometimes these egg head engineers piss me off with their add on nonsense.
Right there with ya man. I yearn for the days of yore in an old CJ with the toilet on top of the manifold dumping gas into the motor until the angle gets too steep and it sputters causing you to stomp the clutch, rev it like hell to turn those 33's with the 2:73 gears and that's just getting in the driveway. Screw fuel injection, AC, comfortable ride, auto transmissions, and soft tops that don't beat your ears to death on the freeway at 60. I put 60 because most of the old iron is unsafe to drive any faster.
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My thoughts exactly! Ohh the good old days when engines made sense and you didn't need a damn flux capacitor to work on an engine....
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