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Old 04-02-2014, 05:39 PM   #1
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Replacing Hardtop Liftgate Seal

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I have to replace my liftgate seal (the rubber seal attached to the piece of plastic along the bottom of the rear window that meets the tailgate). I found a forum on here about someone else replacing theirs, but I can't seem to find it. Has anyone done this or have any tips? Do I just scrape the old one off the window and use epoxy of some sort to attach the new one? Thanks!
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:13 PM   #2
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Need to do the same. Have you found a replacement, and if so, where?

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Old 04-02-2014, 08:42 PM   #3
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I have found replacement ebay. And yes scrape clean and prep also have some 3M primer for adhesive tapes before applying. Jeep Hardtop Liftgate to Tailgate Lower Edge Seal Only 1997 2006 Wrangler TJ | eBay
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Speak up quadman!! Cant hear you!!
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HUH I know I'm slow. Did I not get something right/wrong? Or you yanking my chain? Cause I can speak very loud!!
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:09 PM   #6
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I have one from the dealer. $65 IIRC. It has adhesive on it already. I would start a section by peeling the tape a little, then position the seal in the track with the "tail" of the backing strip hanging out, then pull the tail and press the adhesive into place as you work your way across.

I picked it up to replace it thinking it would help my window seal better. I put a bulb seal u channel (auto grade) along the tailgate upper lip and it works flawlessly so I haven't gotten around to replacing the seal yet. It is weather/age cracked so it won't be a bad thing to do.



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Old 04-02-2014, 10:21 PM   #7
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As for removing the old one 3M bug and tar remover or the like, maybe some denatured alcohol. If you have a 1/4" or so plastic scraper that'd work with the chemicals to get the residue off if you have any trouble.
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I bought mine on ebay for ~$40 I think. It was back in December so I don't remember exactly how much it was. I've been waiting for warmer weather to finally do the install, and now it's here. To be honest I don't remember seeing tape on it already so I'll have to check that when I get home from work.

Quadman, you're saying the glass needs to be primed even if the seal has an adhesive tape on it already?
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Yeah, the red tape in the pic is over the adhesive strip. I only picked it up at the dealer because my parts guy there owed me cash and I just put it on account last year.

You are talking about just the rubber seal, not the plastic that attaches to the glass correct?
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Yeah, the red tape in the pic is over the adhesive strip. I only picked it up at the dealer because my parts guy there owed me cash and I just put it on account last year.

You are talking about just the rubber seal, not the plastic that attaches to the glass correct?
No the whole piece. Plastic part attached to the glass and the rubber seal itself. This:

"Jeep Wrangler JK 2007-2011 Liftgate Glass Weather Seal (plastic)"

but for a TJ.
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No the whole piece. Plastic part attached to the glass and the rubber seal itself. This: "Jeep Wrangler JK 2007-2011 Liftgate Glass Weather Seal (plastic)" but for a TJ.
Rubber seal sold separately. You bought both for $40? Great deal, hopefully the quality is decent. I was under the impression that the plastic part was bonded to the glass at the factory with unobtanium.

I'll be watching this thread though because if you end up getting it on there worth spit I'll replace mine too, since the plastic part on mine has a corner chipped off from the PO hitting the spare.
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Rubber seal sold separately. You bought both for $40? Great deal, hopefully the quality is decent. I was under the impression that the plastic part was bonded to the glass at the factory with unobtanium.

I'll be watching this thread though because if you end up getting it on there worth spit I'll replace mine too, since the plastic part on mine has a corner chipped off from the PO hitting the spare.
This right here:

Jeep Wrangler TJ 1997 2006 Hardtop Lower Liftgate Glass Seal Gasket Trim Assy | eBay

Looks like I paid $60 lol. I live in Canada and had to pay a lot for shipping. It only ended up saving me $10 from the dealerships price.

In the description there it says to use glue.....any specific kind? Is there some special glass glue that people use?

The PO of mine decided that they'd put the hardtop on the jeep while the soft top was still on, and then force the glass shut. The glass couldn't (and still doesn't) close all the way because the plastic piece of the seal is totally cracked and the edges of the rubber gasket are bent out. Both of the piece of the seal are broken on mine, so both need to be replaced. I didn't even know that jeep didn't sell the whole assembly.....looks like I saved $10 off just the gasket lol.

If no one has any suggestions as to how to deal with this, I'll probably take it to a glass/collision place and get a quote. If it's gonna cost an arm and a leg then I'll find a way to do it myself.
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Hey quadman. Apparently you posted to this thread but somehow i am not seeing it on my end. Haha didnt mean to give you a hard time i was just picking at you.

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Hey quadman. Apparently you posted to this thread but somehow i am not seeing it on my end. Haha didnt mean to give you a hard time i was just picking at you.
Mine did the same on my iphone but it shows up on a computer for some reason. Dunno what happened there.
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No worries, Must be a Iphone thing. As far as prep once you have the old one off and cleaned the plastic that it was stuck to. Thats were you use the 3M primer. It help the adhesive tape bond better and stronger.
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Pretty sure the plastic part goes on the glass with epoxy. Then the rubber seal goes to the plastic part with the adhesive strip that's on it. I think I'm going to get a Mopar plastic piece and replace mine this summer, I'll just hang on to the rubber seal I have until I do it all together. Good luck.
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No worries, Must be a Iphone thing. As far as prep once you have the old one off and cleaned the plastic that it was stuck to. Thats were you use the 3M primer. It help the adhesive tape bond better and stronger.
One of us isn't understanding. I have to install the whole assembly - the plastic piece that is attached to the glass as well as the gasket. The gasket and plastic piece are already attached together. I'm asking about how the plastic and glass are held together. Which kind of adhesive would I use? There is no adhesive tape or anything in the plastic.

The photo here is a cross section of the part. The plastic U-shape at the bottom of the pic is what the glass sits in. The rubber at the top of the part is the gasket/seal that runs along the bottom of the glass between the glass and the tailgate.

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Pretty sure the plastic part goes on the glass with epoxy. Then the rubber seal goes to the plastic part with the adhesive strip that's on it. I think I'm going to get a Mopar plastic piece and replace mine this summer, I'll just hang on to the rubber seal I have until I do it all together. Good luck.
Saw this after I already posted my post above. Is there a special glass epoxy or will any generic epoxy work?
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Saw this after I already posted my post above. Is there a special glass epoxy or will any generic epoxy work?
Honestly I'd either talk to the dealership to see what Mopar recommends, talk to a reputable and good glass shop to see what they'd use, or call 3M and tell them exactly what you're going to do and ask what to use. I say this because I don't know about plastic safe epoxy as I don't have any experience outside of Lexan. I know that some epoxy does not work well with certain plastics and I'd hate to give you bad info that ruins your part.
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Honestly I'd either talk to the dealership to see what Mopar recommends, talk to a reputable and good glass shop to see what they'd use, or call 3M and tell them exactly what you're going to do and ask what to use. I say this because I don't know about plastic safe epoxy as I don't have any experience outside of Lexan. I know that some epoxy does not work well with certain plastics and I'd hate to give you bad info that ruins your part.
Yeah I get it, fair enough. Thanks for the help. I'll post in here once I install it and let you know what I end up using.
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Yeah I get it, fair enough. Thanks for the help. I'll post in here once I install it and let you know what I end up using.
No worrie I misunderstood that you had the whole assembly. Yes an Epoxy for glass-plastic adhesion applications. You'll have to get it from a glass or auto glass shop. Glass is my trade for past 17 years.
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No worrie I misunderstood that you had the whole assembly. Yes an Epoxy for glass-plastic adhesion applications. You'll have to get it from a glass or auto glass shop. Glass is my trade for past 17 years.
Ok. Thank you sir.
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I replaced the seal/carrier on my 98 TJ but I had a local body shop do it for $20. For me, it just wasn't worth screwing it up. Cost wise, after you add the cost of solvent and adhesive, it's not much more to have a pro do it for you. Just my two cents.
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I replaced the seal/carrier on my 98 TJ but I had a local body shop do it for $20. For me, it just wasn't worth screwing it up. Cost wise, after you add the cost of solvent and adhesive, it's not much more to have a pro do it for you. Just my two cents.
I bought this stuff yesterday:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pe...l#.U0Mekim9LCQ

It's for bonding dissimilar materials (glass and plastic are on the list), it's waterproof, and sets in one minute. I bought two of em so I'm not far off your $20 mark but now that I've got them I'll do it myself.
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This is a 2014 Thread but appropriate to my present situation. I have been trying to source the part (the plastic retainer, which installs directly to the glass, plus the rubber seal to be applied to the bottom of it (tailgate closes against the seal).

In my case the plastic retainer has been cracked and mended several times over the years, the last resort being Gorilla Tape to the outside (attached to glass and down over the plastic) for the past winter. That work fairly well for the winter to keep water out.

I ordered Mopar Part #55175042 from the Dealership some months back but when it arrived it was only the rubber seal portion, no retainer. They were of no help to me in sourcing the plastic retainer. I can only assume it comes with the glass, which I didn't need.

The two parts, separate or already assembled, were readily available from US sources such as Morris 4X4 Center, e-bay, etc. but Customs duties were of concern.
Morris 4X4 Center: PPR, Lift Gate Trim & Weather Strip Kit - PPR-TM59TM60

ebay.ca: Jeep Wrangler TJ 1997 2006 Hardtop Lower Liftgate Glass Seal Gasket Trim Assy | eBay

I eventually found a Canadian source, Gemini Sales Inc. out of BC, where I didn't have unknown Customs Duties to concern me: Gemini Sales Inc.: 55175042 Liftgate Glass Lower Seal-Rubber And Plastic TJ - FOR TJ HARDTOPS
It was actually assembled and on sale. Total price, delivered to my local Post Office in Nova Scotia, 7 days after ordering, was $104.40 Canadian. The Dealership here wanted the same amount, actually at discounted price, just for the rubber seal. Go figure.

The Part # on the package was 55175042, as mentioned above for only the rubber seal. Anyway, I gave all the information to the Parts Department at the Dealership so they could be more helpful to other Jeepers in the future. They, and Mopar, weren't much help to me. I also showed them the new part so they better understood.

Now for the installation to the glass. I am thinking of using double faced tape activated with paint thinner, similar to the process I use to install golf grips to golf club shafts, but will see what was used for the initial installation once I remove the old part. I also have high bond epoxy and LePage PL Premium (tenacious stuff) available to use, if need be. Any advice or success stories with regard to the installation?
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I replaced mine either one or two years ago and it's held up since. I removed the old one, scraped the old adhesive off the glass and cleaned it as best I could, and then put the new on.

I can't remember exactly which product I used, but it was an automotive glass adhesive of some sort from Canadian Tire kind of like this

https://m.canadiantire.ca/#/products...709&quantity=1

I do remember that it wasn't a two part epoxy, it was in a tube on its own. Just make sure that whatever you use is recommended for use on glass and is waterproof. If you have the option, go with black rather than clear.
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Thanks GrantF. Unfortunately the link didn't take me to the actual product. Was it made by Permatex, something like this black silicone RTV adhesive/sealant?

Jeep let us down with this one and the Parts Guys don't even know what's going on. Amazing and disappointing. From: TJ-HARDTOP-LIFTGATE4
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NOTE: YOU CAN NOT GET THIS FROM THE DEALER AS JEEP NEVER OFFERED IT. YOU CAN GET THE SEAL ONLY BUT NOT THE SEAL/TRIM AS AN ASSEMBLY. IF YOU NEEDED THE TRIM PIECE YOU NEEDED TO BUY A COMPLETE GLASS FROM JEEP...... GO FIGURE???
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Sorry, the link was from the mobile website. It was something like this:

Permatex Flowable Silicone Glass & Windshield Sealer, 42g | Canadian Tire

or a Goop equivalent.

They have this stuff as well (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pe...l#.VzoDMvkrKUk), but its more of super glue consistency rather than a silicone so I figured that the silicone would do a better job of filling the slot and waterproofing it. It might also dry quicker which could be an issue because you might have to slide the seal back and forth to get it right where you want it after you've slid it back onto the window.

Again, get black if you can. I don't know how much it bothers you; clear isn't a big deal but you will be able to see it slightly.
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Black it is, I understand why. I have some black RTV for differential covers. Before buying new I will check its suitability.

Thanks again.

PS: Sorry for leaving out the link in my previous Post. Here it is: https://www.permatex.com/products/ad...esive-sealant/
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No problem. Good luck with the installation. It's probably only a matter of time before the rubber gasket itself needs to be replaced. It still gets damaged after being replaced and is just a bad design to begin with.

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