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Old 05-07-2008, 07:05 PM   #1
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Roll cage removal?

I am in the process of prepping my rig to dura-line/line-x/herculine the tub. I was wondering for those of you that have done this, did you remove the cage or not. How much of a pain is it to remove?

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Just line the tub around it after a little masking, the significant effort to remove the cage isn't worth it.

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I agree with Jerry, it often is quite a bit of extra work to get the rollcage out. First off you have to have tamperproof torx and a set of regular torx bits. The difficult part is breaking loose some of the bolts as they are painted in. When I took mine out I ruined two Craftsman torx bits and one Mac tamperproof torx. It would have been easier to leave it in. Save yourself some frustration and mask it up.
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How much of an effort is it? Are we talking busted bolts and lot's of swearing or ist it just sweat and time. I'm kind of OCD when it comes to this kind of thing. Also, if it matters, I am planning on spraying the liner in.
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I was pretty frustrated after ruining the third torx bit. The tamperproof torx bits were hard to find around here. I had to special order them through the Mac guy. I was using quite a bit of leverage when I probably should have been using an impact gun. My advice would be to use an impact gun and attempt to crack all of the trox bolts loose first. If they come loose then remove the cage, if you start to ruin torx bits, tape it off.
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The tamper-proof torx bolts are no issue at all. A quick tap or two with a punch against the side of the security pin inside easily snaps them right off so a tamper-proof torx bit adapter is not needed at all. That said, the rest of the job is difficult enough that I sure wouldn't go for it just so a simple liner can be applied.
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Parrot the shitty part of doing this job is that foam stuff they seem to have put around the base of all of the mounts at the factory. They do not intend for that to come off and it's a PITA to chip it all away.
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Parrot the shitty part of doing this job is that foam stuff they seem to have put around the base of all of the mounts at the factory. They do not intend for that to come off and it's a PITA to chip it all away.
I hate that stuff.

Line over it!!
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Alright, I think I'm convinced to leave the cage in. As much as I like to I guess I'll bow to the collective experience of all of you
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do you ever plan to replace the cage with something different?
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Alright, I think I'm convinced to leave the cage in. As much as I like to I guess I'll bow to the collective experience of all of you
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Believe us. It really does suck to take it out. Only reason I ever like to take them out is if something brand new is going back in.
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do you ever plan to replace the cage with something different?
Most likely not
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How 'bout another option...

Line the cage as well...

It'll keep everything matching...
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Make sure you tape it real good... I sprayed over the hole for the rear belts, that stuff is tough to get through.
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tape off the cage up to the top of the tub so it will be 2 toned!
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tape off the cage up to the top of the tub so it will be 2 toned!
I may just do that. The liner will be tan and the Jeep is green. One of the reasons I was considering removing the cage is because masking the legs that go to the floor behind the front seats and spraying around behind them will be difficult to get right.
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OK, so just because I'm a glutton for punishment, I decided to take a whack at removing the cage. After about an hours work, it came out without a lot of drama. The only stumbling block was the two torx bolts with the "safety" nipple. I was not able to break that nipple off on either one, but was able to get them loosened with my trusty old vise-grip pliers and a 20oz framing hammer. I plan on replacing those with something easier from the hardware store.
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that something easier is called a standard grade 8 bolt
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Exactly
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let us know how it goes. i plan on herculining my jeep in july.

dont forget to make a list of the tools needed to disassemble everything if you can. i have a set of standerd/metric wrenches but i only have 1 torx size, i cant buy a set of them locally, they only come in singles.

take pictures if you can
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forgot to ask...

for prep you need to tape off everything, but when do you take the tape off? wouldnt it be stuck to the jeep becuase the herculine?\
this confuses me.
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I'd pull the tape before the Herculine sets up.
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I will try to get some pics in the next few days. I ran short on time last weekend I have most of the tub scuffed with the scotch brite pad(s) and put som por15 on the surface rust that was under the carpet on the passenger side footwell. I hope to be able to get back to it on Saturday morning
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let us know how it goes. i plan on herculining my jeep in july.

dont forget to make a list of the tools needed to disassemble everything if you can. i have a set of standerd/metric wrenches but i only have 1 torx size, i cant buy a set of them locally, they only come in singles.

take pictures if you can
Where are you? No Sears nearby? I can't imagine even trying to work on the Jeep without a decent set of Torx bit sockets! But I'll make a list of the sizes.
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i have a autozone and ace hardware. they sell torx with giant handles on the ends, for 8 bucks a pop. im waiting till i see a set that fit on a wratchet for 10-15 bucks. might have to go pawn shop hunting.

houstons a big place with a million stores, someone defintly sells them i just havnt run into it yet.

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