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Old 01-04-2013, 06:45 PM   #1
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Rust Problems!! Need Help!!

So I might be screwed according to the mechanic on my base, he's saying with the rust I have on the underside of my jeep it might be my best bet to say forget it and get a new one. This cant be true right, i definitely don't want a new jeep i love the one i got and its definitely not in my budget. The rust is under the driver side and there's 2 dime sized holes there. I was hoping that it could be sandblasted treated with something, welded and treated with some type of rust preventing solution and then painted. Help would be very appreciated, cause im not looking forward to losing my baby! Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

P.S. if pictures are needed I can upload, ill most likely being taking some tomorrow when there's some light for me to take good ones.

Forgot to mention but the rust is on the frame

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Old 01-04-2013, 07:17 PM   #2
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Oh and I've seen some videos where people have taken the affected areas and just cut them out then used a thick diamond plate type patch to cover the hole, I didnt know if this might be a possibility or if thats a dangerous type mod that's not a good idea. Any help would be appreciated!

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That doesn't sound good, you could probably find a frame for $500 or so, but it is a lot of work to do, welding a patch on may work, but if there are holes completely thru in spots the rest may be in bad shape as well.
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Sand blast and cut out the cancer, weld in some shiny new metal hacked from a good frame or something similar and coat it up. My buddy just did that to a spot in his beater cherokee, good as new.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:58 PM   #5
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Easy peasy, sandblast the areas, cut out the rust, go beyond the cancer spot and weld in a new patch. On the patch be sure to treat the back side with something before you weld it in, also with that thick of metal you will need to bevel the edge of both the patch and frame to ensure proper weld penetration. Weld it up, grind your welds smooth then undercoat the whole smear!!!
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:22 PM   #6
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Well that's a little relieving to hear i was thinking the guy was kinda over doing the severity of it. I'm not to experienced in welding so I might be either diving into my first use with it or I may find a shop that'll take on the work which i know alot of places wont want to take on that work load. If all else fails i'll just have to frame swap(not something i'm looking forward to if its needed)
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:25 PM   #7
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http://autorust.com/store/jeep?zenid...4583cdca896d51
I just ordered center frame repair pieces
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:27 PM   #8
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Well that's a little relieving to hear i was thinking the guy was kinda over doing the severity of it. I'm not to experienced in welding so I might be either diving into my first use with it or I may find a shop that'll take on the work which i know alot of places wont want to take on that work load. If all else fails i'll just have to frame swap(not something i'm looking forward to if its needed)
Go to a fab shop, a normal body shop will turn you away
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:31 PM   #9
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I've read a little on repair pieces like that just could never find a place to buy them thanks for the help everyone and for that link, are those the pieces for right under the doors?
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Yes the skid plate bolts to them
Www.Quadratec.com and
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If you are not experienced at welding, overhead welding on your frame would not be the place you want to practice. I agree find a fab. shop to do the welding.
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If you are not experienced at welding, overhead welding on your frame would not be the place you want to practice. I agree find a fab. shop to do the welding.
Be sure to wear short sleeves and shorts, lol.
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I like to weld overhead wearing nothing but a jockstrap and sunglasses....
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I like to weld overhead wearing nothing but a jockstrap and sunglasses....
Baaahahahahaha, dont forget the cup, id hate for the patch to fall and thump you in the junk!!!
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if you have 2 holes more than likely it is much worse than that. you need to take a hammer to it and listen to the sound. The entire frame could be shot or you could be looky. Pics would be great.
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Baaahahahahaha, dont forget the cup, id hate for the patch to fall and thump you in the junk!!!
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ehh i'm probably just gonna do it in the nude with a small tac welder im gonna pick up at Walmart, i don't need a mask right i mean some aviators will work right
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If you are not experienced at welding, overhead welding on your frame would not be the place you want to practice. I agree find a fab. shop to do the welding.
i probably will just do it with this welder i know, if i cant get him to get off his lazy ass then ill have to bring it to the shop...
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ehh i'm probably just gonna do it in the nude with a small tac welder im gonna pick up at Walmart, i don't need a mask right i mean some aviators will work right
Nice, one of those ones that spatter everywhere, yeah i think the yellow tint aviators should do the trick
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Here's a video of the driver side frame, the passenger side has similar rust but not as bad. At one spot of the frame it looks as though the frame has been previously welded, I wasn't sure if this could be a problem area. I was just wondering if this looks to rusted to be saved or if frame repair pieces could be used?

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Old 01-07-2013, 06:17 AM   #22
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I feel your pain. I purchased a 00 sport for my son back in July.
I knew it had some frame rust issues and negotiated accordingly. Long story short,
I used safety cap repair pieces to restore from forward the door to right over the
rear axle on both sides. I fabricated the pieces myself to repair near rear bumper. The safety cap piece just forward the axle included upper and lower control arm mounts as well sway bar mount. From the video it looks like this is in you're near future. I had no luck finding a replacement frame. This is not a quick fix to do correctly. It took my son and I about 3 weeks (evenings and weekends) to complete. I will be writing a build thread very soon on this repair. If done correctly, I believe this makes frame as strong or stronger than stock.
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Damn!

I look at your location and it says Barksdale......Where the heck has your Jeep been? A Salt Bath? Looks like it lived it's life in the salt belt up here in the North!
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Some pictures. Don't mind the paint runs, my son's first try. He got better. Lol

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Old 01-07-2013, 06:35 AM   #25
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And my first pictures with an iPod, my finger kept getting in the way lol. A lot of work but definitely worth it.

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Sad to say but your mechanic may be right. It looks alot more than a small spot. Looks like there are other areas besides the frame that has rust forming and I would do a thorough inspection on the tub also to see if the Jeep is worth salvageable. Probably not worth the costs especially if you don't have the tools, time , or experience to repair it yourself. Was the rust there when you bought it?
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And my first pictures with an iPod, my finger kept getting in the way lol. A lot of work but definitely worth it.
Do you any pictures of the center skid plate repair welded in? I'm about to this repair myself in 2 weeks.
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Not yet, I will try to get some tonight if my son gets home from wrestling practice before dark. I will also try to get this build thread done on or before this weekend. There is a picture of the center with the bad cut out and the good being prepped. Instuctions say you can do this repair with the tub on the frame. Good luck! As you can see, I removed body bolts and elevated the tub. I couldn't get my grinder or mig welding tip at the work. Maybe with a auto lift but not laying on my back. And welding in that position leather is your best friend lol!
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Not yet, I will try to get some tonight if my son gets home from wrestling practice before dark. I will also try to get this build thread done on or before this weekend. There is a picture of the center with the bad cut out and the good being prepped. Instuctions say you can do this repair with the tub on the frame. Good luck! As you can see, I removed body bolts and elevated the tub. I couldn't get my grinder or mig welding tip at the work. Maybe with a auto lift but not laying on my back. And welding in that position leather is your best friend lol!
Thanks, my buddy has a lift in his garage and he's going to do the welding. I'm hoping we can get both sides done in a day!?
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It will probably be a long day but with lift, right tools, and good help it could be done. I had my 16 yr old son assisting me. He learned a lot lol. Couple things to remember, cut out the bad metal. I cut the bottom inch out except the last inch or so on each end. 110v plasma cutter worked great for this. Next clean all rust and paint off weld area. And very important, do not weld to much in one area at a time. The last thing you want after all that work is to distort your frame with to much heat

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