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Old 10-31-2013, 10:43 PM   #1
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Separating engine from transmission.

Hey there,

I've put up a few posts about my current engine swap, but this is my first, fully inclusive, solo engine swap, so I'm needing some additional assistance.

I have an I6, 4.0 5 spd manual, and the engine is totally stripped down and ready to be pulled out, and on the lift, but I can't seem to break it free from the transmission... even the PITA reverse torx bolts at the 1 and 11 o'clock positions are out, as well as the starter. Is there something else that I've missed or should I just manhandle the sh*t out of it?

Any help is much appreciated!!!

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Stop!


Hammer time...

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Hey there,

I've put up a few posts about my current engine swap, but this is my first, fully inclusive, solo engine swap, so I'm needing some additional assistance.

I have an I6, 4.0 5 spd manual, and the engine is totally stripped down and ready to be pulled out, and on the lift, but I can't seem to break it free from the transmission... even the PITA reverse torx bolts at the 1 and 11 o'clock positions are out, as well as the starter. Is there something else that I've missed or should I just manhandle the sh*t out of it?

Any help is much appreciated!!!
I have done two clutches on two different Jeeps in the last few months, and on both the bell housings were married pretty good to the engines. Make sure you have all the bolts out, then try and get something thin (I used a putty knife) driven between them on each side near the locating pins. Once you can do that, it's just a matter of increasing the size of what you put in there...you just have to be persistant.
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Haha, thank you.

I did do that though... any specific points to hammer on? Use a screwdriver as a wedge? Just bash every exposed portion of the transmission? Hulk style?
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I have done two clutches on two different Jeeps in the last few months, and on both the bell housings were married pretty good to the engines. Make sure you have all the bolts out, then try and get something thin (I used a putty knife) driven between them on each side near the locating pins. Once you can do that, it's just a matter of increasing the size of what you put in there...you just have to be persistant.
OK, I was just concerned with damaging something internal. But if it's just a matter of patience and prying, I can do that. Where are the locating pins?
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I just took my motor out and I didnt have much trouble getting it off the trans. I had 300k on that bad bish and lots of mud and crud.

The reverse torx, the 1, and 11 and there was some lower then that I think 2 on each side. I think they had nuts on em too? Im putting the new motor in tomorrow, its been out a few days and I cant recall of the top of my head.

I unbolted everything, supported the trans, hooked up the hoist, removed the motor mounts, began to lift and wiggle and off she came. I then lowered a lil and removed the mounts from the motor too and lifted that sumbiotch out. I just did a motor swap in a 2001 Saturn a week before this and the Jeep was SO much easier. I thought it was gonna be a nightmare. Ill see if I still say that tomorrow after trying to mate it back to the trans lol.
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I just took my motor out and I didnt have much trouble getting it off the trans. I had 300k on that bad bish and lots of mud and crud.

The reverse torx, the 1, and 11 and there was some lower then that I think 2 on each side. I think they had nuts on em too? Im putting the new motor in tomorrow, its been out a few days and I cant recall of the top of my head.

I unbolted everything, supported the trans, hooked up the hoist, removed the motor mounts, began to lift and wiggle and off she came. I then lowered a lil and removed the mounts from the motor too and lifted that sumbiotch out. I just did a motor swap in a 2001 Saturn a week before this and the Jeep was SO much easier. I thought it was gonna be a nightmare. Ill see if I still say that tomorrow after trying to mate it back to the trans lol.
Yeah I've helped a friend with a few swaps, and this is a hell of a lot easier. Thanks for the advice though, I'll just keep working at it. Question though, what was your lift rated at? I've got a 2 ton, but I have it set at 1/4 ton so it'll actually center over the engine. But the lift seems to be struggling a bit, and I heard some creaking which is a frightening sound for an engine lift to make.
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Here's a pic of the pins. (actually sleeves)
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A nice size pry bar is your friend. First time I dropped the trans was a bitch to separate. Other times after that were much easier. Put a little anti seize on the bolts, pins, and the mating surfaces when you reassemble.

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