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Old 10-08-2010, 10:38 AM   #1
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Shock Questions

I decided to order some rancho 9000 shocks at the same time I order a 4 inch lift and to narrow the search you have a choice of 2.5 lift or 5-6 lift and I was wondering which one would be better or if you can provide which item numbers from either 4wp or quadratec (think I spelled that wrong) so that I can get the in cab controller for free

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My experience with Rancho shocks...excellent, haven't had one fail yet (2000 sahara then 2003 Rubicon) so you have picked a good shock.
Quadratek has great salespeople-they KNOW jeeps and the products, so just give them a call and ask them which shock you need...fastest way to get the right number.

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Thanks for quick reply.

Thanks for quick reply I'll give them a call once back at the office
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What 4" lift will you be installing? Some suspension lifts, especially those from Rubicon Express, are taller than advertised so the taller of the two choices of shocks would be the correct model to choose.

And I just read that there is a temporary Special going on where you get Rancho's wireless remote shock stiffness control kit for free.
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Figured it would be longer of the two. I'm thinking either a zone or rough country lift unless you have a reasonably priced lift I should look into.
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Take a look at a Rubicon Express 3.5" which is more like 4 to 4.5" in reality. Realize too that when you get to the 4" suspension height, that you really should also install a SYE kit into your transfer case which requres an aftermarket longer CV driveshaft. It can be difficult to cure the vibes caused by such a tall lift without a SYE and CV driveshaft.
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Quick question for y'all out there Jerry said to look at the rubicon express 3.5 inch lift both the standard and super flex are in my budget so I'm curious of the difference between the 2 and which one yall would prefer on your own jeep.
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Superflex has flexier control arms with Superflex joints on both ends instead of just one end with the other end being a bushing like the standard uses. For most trails, the standard kit (less $$$) is a fine choice. The Superflex would be more appropriate for tougher trails.
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An SYE is nice if you can afford it, but at 4" you should be fine with the T-case drop that will come with the kit.
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A 1" t-case drop is rarely enough to completely stop/cure the vibes from a 4" suspension lift on a TJ. It normally also takes adding 1" taller motor mounts to get rid of the remaining vibes left after installing a 1" t-case drop. That's why 4" is the height a SYE and CV driveshaft becomes the recommendation.
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Thanks for the information Jerry I appreciate the quick responses I'm currently awaiting a reply from the local 4 wheel drive shop to see what an sye and shaft will cost I don't know if I could do all the transfer case work. I tend to not pay attention to the small details.
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Get a Jeep buddy who does pay attention to the small details (which there are not many in a SYE kit) to help with the SYE installation. It can even be done with the t-case still bolted up to the transmission which is how I did mine.
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I will be getting a sye and driveshaft put in I'm just worried about the actual installing the sye. Is it really hard or kinda simple?
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Well even with the trash tires and BB I pretty much have the most modified jeep out of the group most of them like Chevys and I'm usually the one pulling them out. Pretty funny sight.
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I will be getting a sye and driveshaft put in I'm just worried about the actual installing the sye. Is it really hard or kinda simple?
It's a 2 maybe 3 banana job, and for sure only a 2 banana job if you have competent help. The SYE kits I've seen all come with excellent step-by-step directions which make it hard to screw up. There is no gear setup or anything like that. Slide the gears off the old shaft, reinstall them on the new shorter shaft. You just can't be the type to get faint or get nauseous at the sight of gears. Plenty of non-mechanics have installed them and, in fact, gave many the confidence to start tackling more jobs on their Jeeps.
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Ok Jerry I think you talked me into it. So the next question is Tom Wood or you got another place to order from?
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Tom Wood is an excellent place to get the SYE and CV driveshaft from due to his unsurpassed pre and post-sales support. Tom is one of the industry's true gentlemen whom I have had the pleasure of meeting at a 4x4 show two years ago.

Please tell him I said hello. And do ask for Tom if he doesn't pick up the phone.
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The only special tool you will need is a set of extra-wide opening snap-ring pliers. The retainer clips on a transfer case are pretty big and the usual snap-ring pliers don't open widely enough. I bought mine on either a Maatco or Snap-On tool truck I saw parked at a car dealership. The rest of the tools are normal hand tools.

Back the rear of your Jeep up onto car ramps to give you more room underneath to work. And all you have to do is unbolt the rear-half of the transfer case, the front of it can remain bolted to the transmission which will actually make the job go faster.
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Thanks Jerry for all the support one last real quick question for some one wise such as yourself. I'm needing new tires I'm going to stick to the 12.5 width will the stock gears turn 33s with no problems planning on putting a rear end in it but don't wanna regear twice. But I will regear once I get rear end done to 4.88s or 4.56s.

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