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Old 03-13-2013, 10:09 AM   #1
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Silence.....absolute silence....

Went to start my DD 06 Wrangler 4.0 manual today and nada. Not a sound. Everything lights up, seems ok, but turn the key and nothing. Not a click, not a grunt, nuttin. Got a code one out of three attempts, 06-02, which on other years and models is an ecu issue, but wanna make sure before I start monkeying around in there.

Any confirmation or other explanations would help. FYI: I know squat about anything electronic.

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Have you tried jump starting it? Maybe your battery is just too dead to crank the engine even though it has enough power to light things up like the radio.

If the radio or whatever lights up dims & shuts off when you turn the ignition switch to Start to crank the engine, you either have a dead battery or a loose/corroded/dirty/bad battery connection which means you have to disconnect both battery connectors & clean them with a wire brush.

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Did you have any issue with it starting the last time you fired it up?? Any unusual signs that were not of the norm? If not, then like Jerry said, you probably have a battery issue for it to just kill off so quickly after it working fine the time before.
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X2 with Jerry. Big question is do your lights and radio dim or cut off when you attempt to crank?
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Do what others suggest and try starting it again. Whether or not you can get it started, I would take the battery to autozone to have it load tested along with the alternator if the Jeep is driveable.
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Have you tried jump starting it? Maybe your battery is just too dead to crank the engine even though it has enough power to light things up like the radio.

If the radio or whatever lights up dims & shuts off when you turn the ignition switch to Start to crank the engine, you either have a dead battery or a loose/corroded/dirty/bad battery connection which means you have to disconnect both battery connectors & iclean them with a wire brush.
Nothing dims or otherwise indicates the battery. Cables clean. I'll try an additional charge tonight. Thanks.
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Did you have any issue with it starting the last time you fired it up?? Any unusual signs that were not of the norm? If not, then like Jerry said, you probably have a battery issue for it to just kill off so quickly after it working fine the time before.
Been running like a top......til this morning. Completely blindsided me and I didn't handle it well.
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Do what others suggest and try starting it again. Whether or not you can get it started, I would take the battery to autozone to have it load tested along with the alternator if the Jeep is driveable.
I'm hoping after all the battery discussions that it is that easy. I'd hook up a nuclear reactor if I knew it would help. 2 months of ownership for the most expensive vehicle I've owned. My last Wrangler was an older 4 banger that I brutalized but it always started. Thanks to all.
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Do what others suggest and try starting it again. Whether or not you can get it started, I would take the battery to autozone to have it load tested along with the alternator if the Jeep is driveable.
Gauge shows full charge so I'm not sure about alternator. Except for not actually running, it seems perfect.......sounds funny but true.
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That the lights don't dim and the radio doesn't turn off when you try to crank it makes me believe it's not battery or battery connection related. I now wonder about the ignition switch, they go bad and there is also an actuator pin at the ignition switch that can break & cause this symptom.

What I would do next is to find the Starter Relay inside the PDC (Power Distribution Center) which is on the passenger-side fender well in front of the battery. That relay is what powers the starter motor solenoid. In a very quiet area, have a helper turn the ignition switch to Start & with your ear on the solenoid, listen to see if you can hear it click. If it doesn't click, swap that relay with one of the other similar size relays inside the PDC. If that doesn't do it & the relay still doesn't click (barely audibly), I suspect an ignition switch problem.

If the small starter relay clicks, I would suspect the starter motor and/or the starter motor solenoid has gone bad.
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That the lights don't dim and the radio doesn't turn off when you try to crank it makes me believe it's not battery or battery connection related. I now wonder about the ignition switch, they go bad and there is also an actuator pin at the ignition switch that can break & cause this symptom.

What I would do next is to find the Starter Relay inside the PDC (Power Distribution Center) which is on the passenger-side fender well in front of the battery. That relay is what powers the starter motor solenoid. In a very quiet area, have a helper turn the ignition switch to Start & with your ear on the solenoid, listen to see if you can hear it click. If it doesn't click, swap that relay with one of the other similar size relays inside the PDC. If that doesn't do it & the relay still doesn't click (barely audibly), I suspect an ignition switch problem.

If the small starter relay clicks, I would suspect the starter motor and/or the starter motor solenoid has gone bad.
Plenty of clicks when moved to the start position but no sound whatsoever after that....even when turned. Does the code 06-02 that I now get again help? Thanks again.
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i had the same issue last year. thought it was the battery, po bought it at wally world and it was still under full replacement warranty. swapped it out, started right up. next day, same problem. fumbled around with the starter. ended up putting a new starter on and was all good afterwards. cleaned up the connections too at the starter
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I had the actuator pin break on mine. Ran great then one morning no start no crank no anything yet all my lights, radio everything worked.
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I had the actuator pin break on mine. Ran great then one morning no start no crank no anything yet all my lights, radio everything worked.
Actuator pin?
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I got your actuator pin repair info right here.... Ignition Switch Pin Actuator repair. -
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:32 AM   #16
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I got your actuator pin repair info right here.... Ignition Switch Pin Actuator repair. -
So here I am. Battery..not it. Starter...not it. Swapped some of the matching modules and fuses around in the PCM....not it. Went on to check the ignition switch pin....didn't have a "security" t-10 torx bit. Jiggled some wires and checked clips in column. Now has started 8/8 times. I still pull a 0602 code if I push the odometer button down and turn it off, but....it's running....for now.

If it is the actuator pin, would it be intermittent starting or permanently dead? If it is a short is there a trick for how to find out where? There's like a million wires in the column.

Once again, thanks to all you guys. My friends and coworkers are good folks but not exactly helpful....a bit white collar if ya know what I mean.
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d/c the battery to see if it will clear the code. Next step is definitely check the wiring in the column near/at the ignition switch.
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d/c the battery to see if it will clear the code. Next step is definitely check the wiring in the column near/at the ignition switch.
Did the disconnect several times. Reset definitely happened and the code only comes up when I "pull" it. What would I check for. All connected and look ok (from what I see). Is there a cheap and easy way to find a short?
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Thanks to all

Well, I'm not sure what did it, but it seems to be working. However, it starts on the first crank every time if I DON'T depress the clutch. While this may seem backward, I'm satisfied with it and just have to make sure to crank it with it in neutral. I'll just call it a theft-deterrent.

Just wanted to say thanks to all of you that took the time to help out. I've had several cars and trucks but would take this forum over any after-market warranty.

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