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Old 04-12-2009, 12:11 AM   #1
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Springs Popping??

Well the lift is on. I took the first trip last week and I notice a loud metal "popping" noise while wheeling. Not all the time maybe 10 times all together. The funny thing is that during good flexing it was doing it but not ofter, but it did. it was also doing it a easy stuff and sometime going up a hill, but not again not all the time. Now, at the end of the trip I looked at the back and the rear upper adj. control arm bolt was loose. Could this be a spring setting its place since there are brand new. Was it the loose control arm bolt. I shaked the Jeep and no sounds.

I haven't gone out to check it but looking forward to the next Rausch Creek trip.

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Tighten the bolt. If it doesn't make the sound anymore then that was your problem. If that wasn't your problem then move to the next step.

This is an easy form of deduction. Most jeep modifications are common sense.

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Tighten the bolt. If it doesn't make the sound anymore then that was your problem. If that wasn't your problem then move to the next step.

This is an easy form of deduction. Most jeep modifications are common sense.
I did tighten the bolt after right after the trip. Will have to wait until the next time.
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There is a common problem with TJs where the spring will rub on the bump stop cup. When you flex your suspension the spring will follow the axle and drag against the cup. You will notice it by shiny metal. No 2 jeeps are the same. Your problem probably isn't new, but nothing beats your ability to source out the problem.
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There is a common problem with TJs where the spring will rub on the bump stop cup. When you flex your suspension the spring will follow the axle and drag against the cup. You will notice it by shiny metal. No 2 jeeps are the same. Your problem probably isn't new, but nothing beats your ability to source out the problem.
That's my guess as well. I figure your popping would be the spring re-seating and getting hung up a bit on the lip of the bump stop cup.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:46 AM   #6
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Mine does it, or made noises too. I have the RELA's. They have grease fittings on the arm's ends, but it's near impossible to get grease where it belongs, inside onto the ball.

The nylon inserts fit so close, you can't get the grease in.

You can take them apart, grease them, then re-assemble - but that's a lot of work to do every 5000 miles.
What I did was remove the Zerk fitting, took a small drill and ran it down the hole GENTLY through the Nylon inserts till it touched the ball. That provides a channel for the grease to get in to the ball, then put the Zerks back in.

Noise is gone, easy to do.

Be sure to either double nut or at least Locktite all the the control arm bolts. They have a habit of loosening and falling out - not fun to lose one on the trail.

I've broken the Lower Control Arm bolts twice - now I carry spares.
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i think i have the same problem, can someone post some pics of the control arm bolts? not exactly sure what they are
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i think i have the same problem, can someone post some pics of the control arm bolts? not exactly sure what they are
Does yours do it on trails or on regular driving?
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:28 AM   #9
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See if the springs need to be re-set. I know my front ones after flexing real good need to be reset in the buckets. Also check your bolts before & after each wheeling trip as well, this will help narrow down such issues too.

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just on the trail, its only done it like twice that i can think of and i couldn't find anything wrong after i heard it, but what they're describing sounds like it
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Do you have stock CAs and the stock front TB? Then with +2" of lift the left front spring can hang at the metal "pan" at the lower side of the bump stop after flexing. If you flex
to the other side the spring will jump over this metal "pan" with a very loud metal popping sound.
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what are CAs and TB? sorry im not that familiar with lifts mine was on it when i bought it. what you are describing sounds like it could be whats wrong though. i do have a 4" lift. if that is whats wrong will it hurt anything to keep wheelin with it like that. like i said iv been wheelin quite a bit and its only done it maybe 3 times max
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CA = Control Arms. TB = Track Bar.

Have you even looked at your suspension to see if you can spot the problem?
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yea def, i didn't see anything loose or broken...
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Do you have swaybar disconnects? Are they loose and getting caught?
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yea i do, a while back the quick release pins were getting hung on the drag link, or tie rod i dont remember, i had to cut the pins with bolt cutters and replace them with smaller ones that wouldn't get in the way. but i know that wasn't the sound cause when wheelin i disconnect the sway bar and secure the link up out the way on one of those storage pins

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