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Old 05-27-2009, 07:26 PM   #1
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stainless brake lines?

I want to get some extended brake lines but was wondering if I have to get a certain type of line because I have disc brakes in the rear instead of drums or are they all universial? I also noticed they range in price quite a bit is there something that makes it worth buying the really expensive ones or is it just paying for the name? I have a 06 rubicon with a 4" suspension lift if that helps any.

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I want to get some extended brake lines but was wondering if I have to get a certain type of line because I have disc brakes in the rear instead of drums or are they all universial? I also noticed they range in price quite a bit is there something that makes it worth buying the really expensive ones or is it just paying for the name? I have a 06 rubicon with a 4" suspension lift if that helps any.

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I have a 4.5" lift with discs frnt and drums rear. I am running Russell Stainless lines. I got from Quadratec. Decent price.

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You won't need extended brake lines for the rear, only for the front. The rear brake line follows the control arm down to the axle and then splits L-R in the center. Lift height doesn't affect the rear brakeline's length.
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I have a 4.5" lift with discs frnt and drums rear. I am running Russell Stainless lines. I got from Quadratec. Decent price.


yeah I've looked at those but in a catalog it says "thses kits fit disc front and drum rear brakes" right below them....Thats what got me worried about making sure that I get ones that work with rear disc brakes.
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You won't need extended brake lines for the rear, only for the front. The rear brake line follows the control arm down to the axle and then splits L-R in the center. Lift height doesn't affect the rear brakeline's length.
haha thats true I didnt even think about that... is there any brand you'd recomend for the fronts?
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haha thats true I didnt even think about that... is there any brand you'd recomend for the fronts?
Yes, the OE front brake lines for a YJ. They are superb quality, longer than the TJ's, bolt in directly, and cost less than SS brake lines that we don't really need.
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The advantage to SS is that they will not expand like rubber under pressure so you have good feel in the brake pedal not mush. The longer you go in rubber lines the more evident the squash in the pedal can feel. SS takes car of that. So if you are going longer I would recommend a quality SS line, some are tephlon/kevlar lined and have a higher burst rating (above and beyond) the normal DOT approvel either way SS is better then rubber if you can afford to put them on.
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Agreed.

I ran longer rubber lines for awhile and just didn't like what they did for me. Went to stainless front and rear and had much better pedal feel on the same MC and Booster. I accidentally hung my rear axle completely off the brake line on the lift once and hell the SS brake line held the whole weight for about 30 seconds before it broke.
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I'll X3 the stainless having a better pedal feel. I noticed the difference immediately after they were installed.
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I just replaced my stockers with goodridge extended ss lines. The lines are fine( long enough for my 4in lift flexed on a RTI ramp) the only crap part was the frame mounts. It was easy enough to fab my own. price was very reasonable compared to all the others that I found. Hope that helps. Mike
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I think I'm going to get a set made by crown they are around $85 for front and rear on quadratec. has anyone herd anything about this brand? they are kinda cheap compared to a lot of the other brands. but they seem to have everything the expensive ones do as far as teflon, kevlar and a uv coating.
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I think I'm going to get a set made by crown they are around $85 for front and rear on quadratec. has anyone herd anything about this brand? they are kinda cheap compared to a lot of the other brands. but they seem to have everything the expensive ones do as far as teflon, kevlar and a uv coating.
Crown actually makes there lines for alot of other people. they make good stuff.
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You won't need extended brake lines for the rear, only for the front. The rear brake line follows the control arm down to the axle and then splits L-R in the center. Lift height doesn't affect the rear brakeline's length.

lift height does affect your ability to flex further and stretch that stock rubber brake line tight. i know after putting mine on a ramp at full flex i changed it out because it was too tight to feel comfortable with leaving stock.
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I vehemently disagree on SS brake lines having a better feel. I have them on my TJ but only because my RE contact threw them into my LA kit because he had them laying around. There was no difference in pedal feel on my TJ and there should be none either. I could have used my YJ brake lines I already had (and still have) without any difference... I only used 'em because they were free and laying there.

The OE brake lines are not exactly balloons that expand and contract with brake pedal input. No one in this group could tell the difference in feel between the OE and SS brake lines, that's an old wive's tale in my strongest possible opinion. I've confirmed this over the years with a few brake "gurus" I know well.
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I believe I have noticed a difference in a Sport bike by upgrading to SS brake lines, but that is completely different that a jeep.
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I believe I have noticed a difference in a Sport bike by upgrading to SS brake lines...
Only if the lines you replaced were defective. The DOT has very stringent specifications that all OE brake lines must meet. They are not exactly made out of windshield washer rubber tubing.
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I had some steel braided extended lines on the front of one of my lifted rangers and I did not notice any differance in the peddle.
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You can vehemenently disagree all you want Jerry it's okay if we don't agree on everything. Doesn't bother me one bit if Blaine and Van say it as well. With no other changes between steel lines and rubber lines I have better feel in my brakes. All other issues being the same including procedures of bleeding. Yes I have been around enough with my rig to know the difference in any minor change to it. I however don't use any of the companies brake lines. I have my lines made here locally by Parker Store. And believe me I have been in some situations where braided lines have come in real handy over rubber. JV and here both I have seen rubber lines taken out by rocks conveniently climbing inside the wheel well. Where SS lines took the hits.

If I have a feeling about a product over another I'm not going to run a product because it was free. The brake lines come with RE kits anyway.

Oh, and second on the quality by Crown. They do a helluva product and are the manufacturer for a majority of the suspension companies using ss braided lines.

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I vehemently disagree on SS brake lines having a better feel. I have them on my TJ but only because my RE contact threw them into my LA kit because he had them laying around. There was no difference in pedal feel on my TJ and there should be none either. I could have used my YJ brake lines I already had (and still have) without any difference... I only used 'em because they were free and laying there.

The OE brake lines are not exactly balloons that expand and contract with brake pedal input. No one in this group could tell the difference in feel between the OE and SS brake lines, that's an old wive's tale in my strongest possible opinion. I've confirmed this over the years with a few brake "gurus" I know well.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:48 PM   #19
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well i went ahead and ordered the crown ss brake lines so we will see how they work out... if it improves my braking thats great but I mainly want them because I still have the stock lines and they are too short.

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