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Old 07-26-2009, 01:48 PM   #1
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Well this is going to be a little hard to explain but Iíll do the best I can. I was driving on Power rd in Mesa Arizona going to Salt River water tubing and the road has a few dips when youíre going about 45-50 MPH. Well when I went down the dips I noticed my wheel would turn to the right and feel loose turning it to the left if I were to correct it. When I would come out of the dip (back on a straight/smooth road) it would come back to the left and I could feel it in my steering wheel so I knew not to correct it and just let it come back on its own. But my steering wheel would be crooked to the right less than a quarter turn and I didnít have that problem before but it seems to be straight now that Iím home. My alignment was good before this so Iím not sure what the problem is. Any Ideas what could cause this?

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You were experiencing bump steer which is usually caused by someone having installed a dropped Pitman arm. If your TJ has a dropped Pitman arm, replace it with the factory Pitman arm and your problem will be cured.

Where there are some front-end setups that require a dropped Pitman arm, they are rare and 99% of those installed onto a TJ should not have been.

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You were experiencing bump steer which is usually caused by someone having installed a dropped Pitman arm. If your TJ has a dropped Pitman arm, replace it with the factory Pitman arm and your problem will be cured.

Where there are some front-end setups that require a dropped Pitman arm, they are rare and 99% of those installed onto a TJ should not have been.
Thanks, I know it has a 4" Superlift suspesion. Not sure if the dropped pitman arm is required for that lift but ill take some pictures and maybe you could point it out to me.
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A pic would be great, especially if you can show the Pitman arm from the side. There's a nearly 100% chance that whoever installed your Superlift also cluelessly installed a dropped Pitman arm. And no, a dropped Pitman arm is not required for your 4" Superlift kit. The only time a dropped Pitman arm would be needed for that height would be if a dropped upper trackbar mount was also installed but that is not included in any of Superlift's kits.
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Whoa, that's definitely a dropped Pitman arm and it has an extra deep drop at that. Replace it with the factory Pitman arm and your steering issues will be cured.

To prevent a front-end from developing bump steer, the drag link (which is what connects the Pitman arm to the axle) must be kept parallel to the track bar. Your dropped Pitman arm dropped the upper end of the drag link downward so the drag link is no longer parallel to the trackbar, causing your bump steer.
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Whoa, that's definitely a dropped Pitman arm and it has a deep drop at that. Replace it with the factory Pitman arm and your steering issues will be cured.
Awesome, Iíll get a factory Pitman arm on ASAP, I appreciate the help Jerry.

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