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Old 03-31-2014, 01:46 PM   #1
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Steppin it up to D60's and 40's

I'm at the point now where I'm starting to research on my next big build. I've decided I want to minimize issues when dealing with axle breakage so I'm going with D60's front and rear and will be building them with a friend (Chromo shafts, trussed, sleeved, and ARB's front and rear).

I currently am running stock axles, locked front and rear (lock rights) with 35" tires. I haven't broken anything yet, knock on wood, and do quite a bit of rock crawling but never am hard on the gas because of my setup. With this being said, I want a bigger, stronger setup. I'm lookin into Toyo MT 40x13.5x17 when I have my D60's all locked up and ready to bolt in.

My question for everyone is will I have enough room for clearance and full articulation with a 5.5" suspension lift (Rubi Express) and 2" body lift?

I plan on cutting up the fenders too of course in the rear and am looking into high line fenders as well in the front (possibly Rokmen fenders, good price and clearance for the money). Any suggestions or issues you might think I'll be running into? And what size axle lengths should I go for so I'm not rubbing my control arms and etc.? I want as close to "stock" length as possible, without going to full widths, but figure I'd be better off with a longer axle than having to run spacers, any thoughts?

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Your front should be good clearance wise with hilines, but I do believe you will have to mount the rear axle back quite a bit and do a comp cut to fit 40s

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If you're going with tons then research on Pirate will yield far superior results.
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Just my opinion, but I wouldn't do 40's on stock wheelbase.
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From the research ive gathered for doing tons is that the biggest problem people face when going too narrow with axle width is that their tires rub when the wheels are turned and there is not enough room for coilovers and rubbing issues at full bump. From what I have gathered and has been said multiple times on pirate, 65-66" seems to be the sweet spot. Its wide enough where you wont have any major suspension fitment problems and wide enough for 40s and its narrower then full width.
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Your front should be good clearance wise with hilines, but I do believe you will have to mount the rear axle back quite a bit and do a comp cut to fit 40s
Dam really? I'm not familiar with a comp cut, whats the mean/entail? And on that note I've seen some axles being moved back and relocation of the gas tank is always the first thing I hear, the only issue is that I want to keep my back seat, any suggestions or ways around not having to extend the back?

Because that will mean I need:
New driveshaft - $400-$700
New control arms - $200-$400
Gas can (PUREJEEP Aluminum Gas Tank with Skid Plate) - $750

Anything else if I have to stretch it?
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From the research ive gathered for doing tons is that the biggest problem people face when going too narrow with axle width is that their tires rub when the wheels are turned and there is not enough room for coilovers and rubbing issues at full bump. From what I have gathered and has been said multiple times on pirate, 65-66" seems to be the sweet spot. Its wide enough where you wont have any major suspension fitment problems and wide enough for 40s and its narrower then full width.
Ok, I like the sounds of that. What would you do, go to 40's or stick with something a little smaller like a 38" (not to say a 38" is small). I knew going into this that it isn't going to be a cheap thing to outfit but wasn't sure about anything else I wasn't thinking of.

And here's my biggest question, people would do 38's on stock TJ width but not 40's? If I'm not mistaken thats only an extra inch of height between the two sets of tires is it not? I'm not opposed to doing this, just curious why a stretch with 40's and not 38's? I am open to both cases especially if going to a 40 is gonna cost me an extra $1500-$2500 on top of what it would cost to go to 38's.
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Ok, I like the sounds of that. What would you do, go to 40's or stick with something a little smaller like a 38" (not to say a 38" is small). I knew going into this that it isn't going to be a cheap thing to outfit but wasn't sure about anything else I wasn't thinking of.

And here's my biggest question, people would do 38's on stock TJ width but not 40's? If I'm not mistaken thats only an extra inch of height between the two sets of tires is it not? I'm not opposed to doing this, just curious why a stretch with 40's and not 38's? I am open to both cases especially if going to a 40 is gonna cost me an extra $1500-$2500 on top of what it would cost to go to 38's.
There are people who do stretch even on 38s. Even on 37s. If you have a short wheelbase a stretch becomes more and more likely once you get past 37s.


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He has a tj on 38s that he stretched. He also has a lot of pics of his tj before stretching. Granted he is only on dana 44s
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There are people who do stretch even on 38s. Even on 37s. If you have a short wheelbase a stretch becomes more and more likely once you get past 37s.


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He has a tj on 38s that he stretched. He also has a lot of pics of his tj before stretching. Granted he is only on dana 44s
Ok I think I'm leaning more towards 38's at this point then, because honestly I feel like a 38 can go where a 40 is gonna go, maybe with a little extra rock rash here and there. Either way, would I be ok if I didn't stretch with 38's? I really would rather not have to stretch it just simply because it's gonna be a pain in the ass.

And thanks for your help too tkfk, I've been researching for quite a while on all this and won't be doing the project until the end of the year so am trying to get as much advice as possible before cutting up metal.
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Ok I think I'm leaning more towards 38's at this point then, because honestly I feel like a 38 can go where a 40 is gonna go, maybe with a little extra rock rash here and there. Either way, would I be ok if I didn't stretch with 38's? I really would rather not have to stretch it just simply because it's gonna be a pain in the ass.

And thanks for your help too tkfk, I've been researching for quite a while on all this and won't be doing the project until the end of the year so am trying to get as much advice as possible before cutting up metal.
Id do some more research on the stretch tbh. I have an LJ and will going up to 37s and plan on only stretching the rear 2-3 inches, I can get away with a rear stretch a lot easier then a shorter TJ because I can just mount the gas tank farther back. If you decide to stretch you can fit a fuel cell in your trunk.
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Id do some more research on the stretch tbh. I have an LJ and will going up to 37s and plan on only stretching the rear 2-3 inches, I can get away with a rear stretch a lot easier then a shorter TJ because I can just mount the gas tank farther back. If you decide to stretch you can fit a fuel cell in your trunk.
Ok, I will and thats a good point too - everything I mentioned then is about right then as far as prices go and all that I take it; so I'd be looking at about $2000 or so to stretch it properly (w/ about 4 inches of stretch in the rear) from what I've seen.

I'll start hittin the books then, cauz if I'm gonna stretch then I might reconsider the 40's lol....
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Ok, I will and thats a good point too - everything I mentioned then is about right then as far as prices go and all that I take it; so I'd be looking at about $2000 or so to stretch it properly (w/ about 4 inches of stretch in the rear) from what I've seen.

I'll start hittin the books then, cauz if I'm gonna stretch then I might reconsider the 40's lol....
Im not sure what you are including in the 2k but I think 2k is a bit high estimate. The only thing you would need to stretch is a new fuel cell with a bracket and thats maybe around $500. I looked up some Goodyear MTR/K and 38s go for $460 each and 40s go for $490. So if you want to go to 40s you are only looking at about $700-1k extra to stretch. This is assuming you are not using the stock control arm locations. A lot of it is fab work, so if you can do it then the cheaper is gets. If you give it to a shop then the 2k price gets more realistic.

When I do my stretch, im going to be doing the Clayton long arm kit and im just going to weld the arm mounts couple inches back instead of getting longer arms.
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Im not sure what you are including in the 2k but I think 2k is a bit high estimate. The only thing you would need to stretch is a new fuel cell with a bracket and thats maybe around $500. I looked up some Goodyear MTR/K and 38s go for $460 each and 40s go for $490. So if you want to go to 40s you are only looking at about $700-1k extra to stretch. This is assuming you are not using the stock control arm locations. A lot of it is fab work, so if you can do it then the cheaper is gets. If you give it to a shop then the 2k price gets more realistic.

When I do my stretch, im going to be doing the Clayton long arm kit and im just going to weld the arm mounts couple inches back instead of getting longer arms.
That's genius, didn't even think of that - and I will be having a really good friend of mine help me with all of the fab work so in that case I guess you're right. I haven't done much of my own fab at all just because I can't weld but will be taking a class actually over the next several months so that I can start to work on the Wrangler myself.
I'm still learning and thanks again, I think I know what I need to do now and continue researching some more over the next year or so before I tackle the project. I'll post again on this thread once I get closer to the project.

If anyone else has advice or suggestions feel free to post them, I'm open to any and everything at this point.
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Check out Gen-Right Stretch Kit. That would give you an idea of at least what you are looking at. The kits come with a new gas tank to fit the bigger axle (center pumpkin). Kits start at $1399.

GenRight offers the best prices and customer service for EXT Stretch Package to be purchased online 24/7.
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Here is another good link while doing research for your build.

Ultimate Wrangler Build Ups and Swaps thread - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
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Check out Gen-Right Stretch Kit. That would give you an idea of at least what you are looking at. The kits come with a new gas tank to fit the bigger axle (center pumpkin). Kits start at $1399.

GenRight offers the best prices and customer service for EXT Stretch Package to be purchased online 24/7.
Thanks Sccafire,
I was actually lookin at those Gen-Rights kits the other night - I know they make some wicked solid products just wasn't sure what I should take from their kit. In other words, I'm making my own side skirts and comp cuttin the rear end I think at this point maybe making my own corner guards, haven't decided yet which I believe their kit came with both and for a good price so I might go either way.

I do have one question I've come across though that always seems to be a matter of opinion no matter whom I've asked since I originally got my Wrangler lifted, 3-link vs. 4-link in the rear. I have a RE 5.5" long arm kit with 2" BL right now on their standard rear link system that came with the RE kit, and my Jeep isn't a trailer queen so it sees a lot of road too. Sounds like braking is the only issue I might have to deal with since its not a triangulated 4 link - any thoughts or foreseen issues since I'll be stepping up to either 38's or 40's?
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My opinion would be to do a rear 4-link to get rid of the rear track bar. Just make sure you do a lot of research. Building a streetable rig on 38's or 40's is not easy or cheap. Also, most fuel cells are not made for daily driven vehicles. You might think about getting a Gen-right stretch tank. Especially if you have annual vehicle inspections.
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Not that i have any experience, but if your gunna stretch it, i saw you mentioned the pure jeep tank, i read somewhere that the pump didnt fit right in that tank. not sure if they fixed the problem, but might wanna read up on that aswell
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Yes research is everything. So many people out there with different builds. Study other peoples builds, see what worked for them and what didnt and see how you can do yours to suit your needs.
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Another vote for the 4link rear. A Rubicon express lift with the track bar and single large control arm per side just doesn't make sense to me from a performance or ease of build perspective.

What are you doing for steering and brakes? Big brake kit and hydro assist?
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Another vote for the 4link rear. A Rubicon express lift with the track bar and single large control arm per side just doesn't make sense to me from a performance or ease of build perspective.

What are you doing for steering and brakes? Big brake kit and hydro assist?
I havent gotten that far yet, right now everything is stock at the moment. I think the biggest thing for me is going to be keeping it street legal all around especially since I've just recently moved back to Massachusetts which is ridiculous with all their dam laws compared to Arizona where I was living. I will be back there at some point but want my rig to be street legal as much as possible mainly because I will be starting a Jeep expedition company with it when I return to Arizona and from talking with the forest service in Arizona on a daily basis, they can't stress enough having it legal on the streets since I won't be trailering it at all.
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Not that i have any experience, but if your gunna stretch it, i saw you mentioned the pure jeep tank, i read somewhere that the pump didnt fit right in that tank. not sure if they fixed the problem, but might wanna read up on that aswell
You know thats a good point and something I was thinking about especially because I literally just bought a new pump when I first bought the Jeep so I deff don't wanna have to buy a friggen new one. The more and more I look I'm leaning towards Gen-Right.
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My opinion would be to do a rear 4-link to get rid of the rear track bar. Just make sure you do a lot of research. Building a streetable rig on 38's or 40's is not easy or cheap. Also, most fuel cells are not made for daily driven vehicles. You might think about getting a Gen-right stretch tank. Especially if you have annual vehicle inspections.
That's a good point too and after you mentioned Gen-Right the first time, I've looked more into them vs. the competition and price wise and they're not that much more and I know they make a good product so I'd rather do it right the first time. Why do you say it's hard to build it streetable - as far as regulations from the state or how it'll drive and handle on the road in general?
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That's a good point too and after you mentioned Gen-Right the first time, I've looked more into them vs. the competition and price wise and they're not that much more and I know they make a good product so I'd rather do it right the first time. Why do you say it's hard to build it streetable - as far as regulations from the state or how it'll drive and handle on the road in general?
I didn't say it was hard to do just not an easy thing to do. I guess it all depends on your level of knowledge. May be easier for some and harder for others.
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Stepping up to 1 tons and 40s is a huge undertaking, I'm 6 months into my build and still a few weeks away. I'm not saying don't do it but plan on spending at least a few months and quite a few thousand dollars to do it right. Check out the jeep hardcore tech section for some great info.
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Stepping up to 1 tons and 40s is a huge undertaking, I'm 6 months into my build and still a few weeks away. I'm not saying don't do it but plan on spending at least a few months and quite a few thousand dollars to do it right. Check out the jeep hardcore tech section for some great info.
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Jesus I just went through your entire undertaking and it came out badass but I am definitely not gonna go that far in depth. If I ever went that route my little sister is buyin a Jeep and if anything I'd just have her buy an LJ and I'd swap all my parts onto hers and give her my old Jeep.

I guess my biggest question for you is why did you decide to stretch the frame and not just move the suspension, etc. back or even buy a new LJ for that matter? Not to say you didn't do a good job cauz it literally looks exactly like an LJ, unbelievable work man seriously.
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Jesus I just went through your entire undertaking and it came out badass but I am definitely not gonna go that far in depth. If I ever went that route my little sister is buyin a Jeep and if anything I'd just have her buy an LJ and I'd swap all my parts onto hers and give her my old Jeep. Sounds like your sister would be getting the raw end of the deal there?

I guess my biggest question for you is why did you decide to stretch the frame and not just move the suspension, etc. back That would not have gained me any interior space and I did not want to have to run a fuel cell since I like to take my family out in the jeep.

or even buy a new LJ for that matter? New LJs are not cheap, why would I go through the hassle of taking all of the aftermarket parts off of a great running jeep that I owe nothing on just to start over with a big car payment when I could spent 4 weekends and $500 stretching my tj to LJ specs?


Not to say you didn't do a good job cauz it literally looks exactly like an LJ, unbelievable work man seriously.

Thanks for the compliments though
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Thanks for the compliments though
hahaha not necessarily, I'd be paying any differences in money but I'd basically just be buying her frame and body essentially as a foundation and using all my parts that I already have - her plan isn't to run an expedition company with her Jeep so she could care less about her wheel base and would rather a TJ instead of an LJ. Besides, just the thought of it doesn't sound cost effective as you mentioned haha.

But back to all seriousness, you say fuel cell? Do you mean in the "trunk" or bed of the Jeep? I've thought about using one of the Gen-Right tanks that give more space underneath as I mentioned in the thread earlier - do you see any down sides or were you mainly concerned about interior spacing? (Which I completely agree with, I'm considering moving the rear seat backwards and eliminating the trunk actually and having all my gear in a Moab rack or roof racks overhead.

All good points, I guess my most recent progress was actually this past week which might make this project speed up quite a bit earlier than expected. I've talked with several investors so I might get the best of both worlds and be able to do everything I want at once if I can get my expedition company organized in time. I'll be keeping everyone posted throughout the process.

And again any advice would still be excellent, I'd like this to become a thread of great ideas I, or anyone else, can come back to for ideas and advice - thanks!
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I think the genright tank is awesome but I couldn't bring myself to spend $900 on it. If you are planning on moving the rear seat backward keep in mind that the seat belts attach to the roll bar and if you move the seat back too far the seatbelt may not work effectively.
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I think the genright tank is awesome but I couldn't bring myself to spend $900 on it. If you are planning on moving the rear seat backward keep in mind that the seat belts attach to the roll bar and if you move the seat back too far the seatbelt may not work effectively.
Ohh ok I gotcha, and I'll be switching over to 5 point harnesses all around the Jeep, front and back so I won't be need the old bucket seat and seat belts but good point. Part of this is me ripping out the stock roll cage and making a new one too of course.

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