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Old 12-05-2013, 01:05 PM   #1
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Super 35 detroit

I've been doing some research on upgrading my rear axle and a locker for the rear. For a while now I've had my mind set upon saving up for a dana 44 with a selectable locker and doing my regear at the same time. However, I've found a super 35 kit with a Detroit that I can get new for a very good price. All though originally I wanted a selectable locker I've read about driving with a Detroit and it doesn't seem too bad. People say at first it's a learning curve and then you don't even notice it's there anymore. Also, my jeep isn't my daily driver. It's just my weekend vehicle.
Now to my actual question, is the 35 even with a super 35 kit strong enough to handle the locker? Obviously it works somewhat or they never would have offered the kit but realistically can I expect it to be reliable with 33s? None of the wheeling I do is extreme but I do a decent amount of moderate wheeling.

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There are "Super 35" kits, and then there are Super 35 kits. Superior Axle's Super 35 kit was the original and it was a superb kit with a superb reputation... very few breakages over the many years it was manufactured. But there are a lot of low budget cheap/weak kits that claim to be a Super 35 but they're really not. If the kit you're looking at doesn't have hardened 30 spline alloy axle shafts and a 30 spline locker, walk away. The cheap ones make do with 27 spline shafts, sometimes not even good quality alloy.

If it's the real thing, which means it was made by Superior Axle and the shafts and splines are straight, I'd jump on it. Some who have no actual experience with a real Super 35 kit say they're not worth installing but I can say they hold up extremely well with 35" tires even out in notoriously tough places like Johnson Valley.

If it's a no-name, I'd be wary. I dunno who makes the best Super 35 kit now since Superior Axle went out of business, it's a crapshoot since they're all now imported.

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There are "Super 35" kits, and then there are Super 35 kits. Superior Axle's Super 35 kit was the original and it was a superb kit with a superb reputation... very few breakages over the many years it was manufactured. But there are a lot of low budget cheap/weak kits that claim to be a Super 35 but they're really not. If the kit you're looking at doesn't have hardened 30 spline alloy axle shafts and a 30 spline locker, walk away. The cheap ones make do with 27 spline shafts, sometimes not even good quality alloy.

If it's the real thing, which means it was made by Superior Axle and the shafts and splines are straight, I'd jump on it. Some who have no actual experience with a real Super 35 kit say they're not worth installing but I can say they hold up extremely well with 35" tires even out in notoriously tough places like Johnson Valley.

If it's a no-name, I'd be wary. I dunno who makes the best Super 35 kit now since Superior Axle went out of business, it's a crapshoot since they're all now imported.
When did superior axle go out of business?
The guy I'm talking to says he's had it for about a year and then he went a different direction with his project so it's still new in the box. He claims its the original super 35 kit with the 30 spline. Here's a picture he sent me.


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Is the logo on the axle shaft the correct logo? I've read about the kits but I've never actually seen the logo.
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Sweet, that's the one... grab it quick!! Superior Axle went out of business last year, you found a piece of rare treasure!
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Sweet, that's the one... grab it quick!! Superior Axle went out of business last year, you found a piece of rare treasure!
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Buy it quick! I had the Superior Super 35 kit (with Detroit) in my 94 YJ with 35's, 350, 700R4, and 3.0:1 atlas and never had a minutes trouble. And we wheeled hard!
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Jump on that.... a friend of mine spins 38.5 inch Boggers on a Superior Super 35 kit with an ARB installed. Lots of miles on and off road on that kit too. That's my plan just cuz its cheaper than the 8.8 full build. 33s or 35s should have no problem at all.
And thanks to Jerry for pointing out the 27 or 30 spline count. I would have gone 30 spline anyways cuz 27 didn't sound right for a Super 35 kit.
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Just curious, how much did it cost you? I would love to have a super 35 in my jeep.
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Just curious, how much did it cost you? I would love to have a super 35 in my jeep.
I haven't purchased it yet.
I won't actually get it until after tax returns... The guy has been holding onto it for a year and he said he doesn't mind waiting another month for me.
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I haven't purchased it yet.
I won't actually get it until after tax returns... The guy has been holding onto it for a year and he said he doesn't mind waiting another month for me.
Any idea what the price range on it might be though? And that's cool of the guy selling it to hold it for you.
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Any idea what the price range on it might be though? And that's cool of the guy selling it to hold it for you.
He's asking $750
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$750 is an absolute STEAL for a new genuine Superior Axle Super 35 kit. Jump on it before he changes his mind!!
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He's asking $750
Man, you are so lucky.
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I just sent him the money. Just kidding but this is good.
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I just sent him the money. Just kidding but this is good.

I'm actually hesitate to have it shipped since its $750. The guy is 5 hours away but I may go pick it up just to be safe...
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Why does 4x4groupbuy still show the superior s35 and c-clip eliminator? A few other very reputable online company's still show that that have them. Overstock?

Jerry, how does the Yukon super 35 compare to the superior? A local jeep guy was asking me about them, and I told him i didnt have any experience with them. Also, I have a super 88 kit out in the shed that I never used. Glad I held onto it
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Why does 4x4groupbuy still show the superior s35 and c-clip eliminator? A few other very reputable online company's still show that that have them. Overstock?

Jerry, how does the Yukon super 35 compare to the superior? A local jeep guy was asking me about them, and I told him i didnt have any experience with them. Also, I have a super 88 kit out in the shed that I never used. Glad I held onto it
Maybe it's just what's left over from before they went under?
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Why does 4x4groupbuy still show the superior s35 and c-clip eliminator? A few other very reputable online company's still show that that have them. Overstock?
Must be overstock. I noticed that as well when doing some research on them. Quadratec also has the superior super 35 30 spline for various year XJs and YJs. Along with a superior 33 spline super 44 for a TJ.
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I just put in a Super 35 kit from G2 w 30 spline axles and a Eaton E locker w 4:56 gears on 33" tires . I've read on here when the jeep starts to hop get your foot out of it cause it could break things .
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I just put in a Super 35 kit from G2 w 30 spline axles and a Eaton E locker w 4:56 gears on 33" tires . I've read on here when the jeep starts to hop get your foot out of it cause it could break things .
That's the case with any axle. What breaks stuff is when tires that are spinning, suddenly find traction. That shock is horrible for driveline components. But at the same time, things can break anytime. Sure, less skinny pedal helps combat breakage, but it's not a guarantee. But with multiplied torque from being in 4lo, anything can happen. I've seen guys beat on a locked d35 with 35's and never break anything, and have seen guys break a d44 on 31's.
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I hope nothing breaks in your super 35 (doesn't sound like it will though) because parts sure would be hard to find.
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Why does 4x4groupbuy still show the superior s35 and c-clip eliminator? A few other very reputable online company's still show that that have them. Overstock?

Jerry, how does the Yukon super 35 compare to the superior? A local jeep guy was asking me about them, and I told him i didnt have any experience with them. Also, I have a super 88 kit out in the shed that I never used. Glad I held onto it
I would be very surprised if 4x4groupbuy.com really still has any of that in stock, I suspect they just haven't removed the Superior Axle info from their website.

Between Superior Axle and Yukon, I'd go Superior every time so long as you can still find Superior's product in new or good condition... which is already nearly impossible to find now. The OP finding a new-in-box Superior Axle Super 35 kit for only $750 was, to me, like finding buried Spanish gold.
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The OP finding a new-in-box Superior Axle Super 35 kit for only $750 was, to me, like finding buried Spanish gold.
At least it gives hope to everyone that they're still out there
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Didn't the guy from superior goto ten factory?
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didn't the guy from superior goto ten factory?
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A local guy has a slightly used superior super 35 with Detroit. How much is a uses kit worth?
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Mac left G2 several months after starting there, I have no doubt he clashed with ***hole owner Greg Adler. I don't yet know where Mac is working now.
Well there it is there. G2 still making some quality shafts?
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I really don't know enough about G2, Yukon, Ten Factory, etc. products to know what their differences are. They're all likely very similar, everything they sell is imported.

What a shame Superior Axle is no longer around.

One thing I do know is CTM Racing is an up and coming axle & axle shaft provider and they make some excellent axle shafts. They're made right here in my area and have been around a long time. Many know of them through their monster CTM axle shaft u-joints which is what I'm running in my TJ. They're not cheap but if I had the $$$, I'd sure buy a CTM shaft before I'd buy any of the above names. I was at their shop Thursday & Friday on business, they are busy as heck producing axles & shafts for the upcoming King of the Hammers.
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Do the do a dana 35 axle? Could be the new superior upgrade

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