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Old 12-20-2013, 10:52 AM   #1
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Suspension recommendations?

I've searched on this forum and I've been eyeing the Zone Offroad 4.25" suspension lift for my 1997 TJ 4.0L sport. I basically want to clear 33x12.50R15s, I'm not looking for hardcore offroading, just light.

Basically.......do I really need all of the options on the Zone's site? I've seen it's better to go with the Hydro shocks, and I might as well get the steering stabilizer and sway bar disconnects... I want a decent lift, but get what I need now and not have to add things later?

- Do I need the alignment cams?

- Front adjustable track bar?

I feel like there's a lot of info out there and it's overwhelming. I know that every application is unique, thanks for looking!

Thanks!

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Go for it also get the upgraded shocks and steering stabilizer

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Old 12-20-2013, 10:56 AM   #3
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Do I need the front adjustable track bar? I can always add that later, right?
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An adjustable front track bar is a good idea, but rather than getting Zone's, I would take a look at Metalcloak. You can use your stock trackbar with the Zone kit...they have you drill an extra hole and move it over. That's not the best way because you're drilling in an area of the bracket where there's less meat, and if later you want to go to an adjustable, it will mean welding a plate over the existing bracket and redrilling a hole...no big deal if you have a welder, but it's nice if you start with an adjustable. The link disconnects are not necessary if you never disconnect your sway bar links, however, if you wheel in the rocks, you would probably want to. My son used their standard shocks and is happy with their performance. My "99" already had alignment cams on it...not sure about your 97, but I doubt that you would need them irregardless. If there's nothing wrong with your steering stabilizer, don't replace it...they either work or they don't.
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:27 PM   #5
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I personally did not get the adjustable track bar or neither did I move my existing one and it works just fine I would not spend a 100 on the quick disconnects make your own for less than 10 dollars
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:59 PM   #6
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I personally would not run Hydro shocks. Shock type aside, it's the valving that will matter, which should correlate to the spring rate (technically to be more specific, the wheel rate) you have.
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Hmmm.....all good advice.

I guess just get the basic w/o hydro and the steering stabilizer then?
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Hmmm.....all good advice. I guess just get the basic w/o hydro and the steering stabilizer then?
So I see they have "basic" which would likely be a hydraulic shock. Then they have a "nitro" upgrade which would likely be a gas charged shock.

All else being equal a gas charged shock will perform better than a hydraulic shock in most applications.

I'm saying all of this so there's no confusion regarding my comment about "hydro" shocks. Previous owners of both the TJ I had and the LJ I currently own had installed cheap hydro shocks and they were garbage. I can't imagine the zone hydro's being any better, but I'm picky so take it with a grain of salt.
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Yes, I think I saw a lot of users getting the nitro, it's only a couple of bucks more.

How about rear pinion cam locks?
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I've seen it's better to go with the Hydro shocks, and I might as well get the steering stabilizer and sway bar disconnects... I want a decent lift, but get what I need now and not have to add things later?

- Do I need the alignment cams?

- Front adjustable track bar?
The Zone 4.25" Combo Kit is a good choice for what you're talking about doing. It will allow you to fit some big tires without having to add all the other hardware required for a full 4" suspension lift.

The Nitro shocks will help to keep the shocks from "fading" when offroading, especially when driving over washboards. They won't necessarily give you a better on road ride.

The factory alignment cams can be used with the control arms in the kit.

A Front Adjustable Track Bar will keep your axle centered under the Jeep without having to drill the bracket.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

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The factory alignment cams can be used with the control arms in the kit.
The 4.25 kit uses the factory control arms. He shouldn't need the Zone cams.
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The 4.25 kit uses the factory control arms. He shouldn't need the Zone cams.
I apologize for the confusion. The factory cams will be used since you are using the factory control arms.

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A Front Adjustable Track Bar will keep your axle centered under the Jeep without having to drill the bracket.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

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That track bar needs 4" of bumpstop extension to stay off the stock diff cover. Some of the worst clearance I've seen. Read this: 3.25 lift... front track bar?

I'd recommend Currie, JKS or Metalcloak...and which model specifically depends on a few factors regarding the suspension setup.
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That track bar needs 4" of bumpstop extension to stay off the stock diff cover. Some of the worst clearance I've seen. Read this: 3.25 lift... front track bar? I'd recommend Currie, JKS or Metalcloak...and which model specifically depends on a few factors regarding the suspension setup.
Bringing up an old thread but could you specify those different factor? I'm looking into getting an adj. trackbar for my jeep and I'm trying between the 3 you mentioned.

I have a 4" rough country and 33's.
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One major factor is how much bump stop extension is needed for each track bar to clear the front diff cover. Don't know much about the JKS but I know the MC tb requires less bs than the Currie. I have a 4" suspension lift with proper sized shocks and need 2.5" bs extensions so they don't bottom out. With that setup my Currie TJJ tb clears the stock diff cover and doesn't limit up travel. If a lower lift is used requiring less bs an MC tb might be a better option.
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Bringing up an old thread but could you specify those different factor? I'm looking into getting an adj. trackbar for my jeep and I'm trying between the 3 you mentioned.

I have a 4" rough country and 33's.
Last I heard, JKS #126 and Currie TJS/TJJ need 2" front bumpstop extension to clear the stock diff cover & tie-rod. The newer bend JKS #126 can be work down to ~1.25" bumpstop extension when using a V8 ZJ tie-rod. Metalcloak can work down to 0" bumpstop extension when using a V8 ZJ tie-rod or possibly even the stock tie-rod.

That said, other factors may require more bumpstop extension for you. At 4" of lift, you probably need 2-2.5" bumpstop extension based on shocks and tires alone. So any of the 3 track bars will work for you - just make sure your bumps are setup properly for everything else.

read these:
correct bumpstop length
the big thread of TJ track bar clearance issues (read the whole thing)
Lift Install & Suspension Lessons Learned
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:38 PM   #17
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Last I heard, JKS #126 and Currie TJS/TJJ need 2" front bumpstop extension to clear the stock diff cover & tie-rod. The newer bend JKS #126 can be work down to ~1.25" bumpstop extension when using a V8 ZJ tie-rod. Metalcloak can work down to 0" bumpstop extension when using a V8 ZJ tie-rod or possibly even the stock tie-rod. That said, other factors may require more bumpstop extension for you. At 4" of lift, you probably need 2-2.5" bumpstop extension based on shocks and tires alone. So any of the 3 track bars will work for you - just make sure your bumps are setup properly for everything else. read these: correct bumpstop length the big thread of TJ track bar clearance issues (read the whole thing) Lift Install & Suspension Lessons Learned
Thanks for the info. What about longevity of the part itself?

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