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Old 06-20-2006, 09:13 PM   #1
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Howdy guys. Got a few things to run by yall and see what ya think on the way my 01 TJ is goin.
Got the 3" BL on and put the 4" Rough Coutry Suspension on.
New tires and rims and have come in, went with the 15x10 Rock crawler series 152 streetlocks, and the 36x13.50 Iroks. I think the combo does real well. As im goin with more or black scheme then anything. Put the disconnects on the swaybars and now im lookin into gears. Im planning 4:88 gears front and rear with an ARB air locker in the front and a straight detroit in the rear. Btw i have the dana44 rear and 30 front stock with 3:73 gears. Ive done a few mods to the engine but nothing extreme yet. 4.0 6 with Airaid throttle body spacer and cold air intake, hypertech power programmer, and thinking bout a Borla header. Runnin a Flowmaster super 40 at the moment and it sounds pretty good. Put in a B&M shifter and the difference is awesome. It has good power now but i want the rugged low end of the 4:88s. Dont have any vibrations in the driveline but im goin to order the SYE and driveshaft to bring my tcase skidplate back up to the frame for clearance issues. I have faith in the 44 in the rear but im curious about the front 30. Should i look for a 44 to swap in, or do you think the chromoly axle shafts will hold up? I dont do any rock crawling, more or less sand, mud bogs, and trails. Nothing major, i dont think rocks grow in florida anyhow lol. Any other major mods i should look at? Only had the jeep a few months but im enjoying it like a oversized go-cart. Thanks for the help. Chris.

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Old 06-20-2006, 09:23 PM   #2
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Run it until it breaks, then upgrade.

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Depends on how your driving is - for some the 30 holds up fine with up to 37"s and Chromoly shafts, others break em on 33"s. Only way to know is trial and error.

If you find yourself spinning caps or breaking shafts - even after going to chromoly upgrades; a D44 would be recommended - but make sure it's not a rubicon Dana 44 everything out from the diff is the same as your D30.

However - if you find yourself breaking gearing parts (like spiders or R&P's), but no shafts; a rubicon D44 would work fine and beef up your gears.

Your setup looks good so far - the only thing I would change is the 3" body lift; I've had bad luck with my unlifted body mounts as it is (had to refab a few mounts in the body due to stress cracking), so I'd recommend a 1" tops on a vehicle that's as small as a Jeep. With 5" of lift (4" susp, 1" BL) you should be able to fit 35"s nicely - though the 36"s might be a squeeze; which puts you in a bit of a bind. You don't want to go above 4" of suspsension lift without going long arm really. It works okay off-road; but the on-road handling gets pretty squirelly.
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As stated ditch the 3" body lift. The 30 will hold for a while. But keep an eye on your ball joints, those 36" are heavy.. on use the ARB as needed. I would sujest and arb in the back too.. Makes life so much nicer.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:45 PM   #5
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With those large tires, you would have been better off with a 6" long arm lift and less body lift, as stated. You are kind of stuck with the body lift now, for clearance issues. Hopefully you won't have the same amount of body twisting as the ones that play on the rocks. So you actually may get away with it. I also agree with the others on the D30. Use it until it breaks, then upgrade if necessary. Good luck, and happy wheeling.
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yup, what they said...plus i've heard of dangerous things happening with body lifts of that much...for example...a truck with a three inch body lift got hit in the back and the whole body came off the frame! and the body lift can really screw up things
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I understand the concerns on the body lift. But ive been running bodylifts on my 95 full size and my 78 1 ton for well over 10 years now. Never had a problem with them. Alot of it has to do with how you drive it, and what kind of wheeling you do. Personally i wouldnt go without mine, makes things so much easier to work on, clean and what not. But everyone has their opinions. Do yall think 4:88 will be too low? or should i go for 4:56. Right now with 3:73s i can still run 70+ on the highway and hold 5th gear, and turning thme over is very easy in the mud?
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The emphasis with your statement is "Full Size" - the overall relation of the body lift to the vehicle size has a lot to do with how much you can get away with; in this case, a Jeep is a LOT smaller. A full size can twist more and not rip thing in half - do the same on a short platform, and things get stressed a lot more. Comparing a full size and a Jeep in the way of getting things done is like comparing apples and oranges - Jeeps take a bit more of a delicate touch because of their light weight and small size, where with a larger heavier vehicle you can get away with more since the sheer mass just 'plows' through the crudeness of a setup.

4.88's are good; but it depends on what you want on the street. 4.88's bias towards trails, but do good on road. 4.56's bias towards the road, but wont do as good on the trails for 35"s

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