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Old 07-10-2008, 09:08 AM   #1
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I have a technical question. Nevermind if it makes sense or questioning why someone would want to do this. I have a friend wanting to go from stock to a 6 or 7 inch long arm lift. Here is the question: Once all the factory CA brackets are removed and the whole lift is installed, could the 6-7 springs be replaced with 4 inch springs to lower it back down if the ride was too much for him. Basically he is wondering if 35, 36's or whatever tire size he goes with ends up being too much, could he install shorter springs, shorter shocks and smaller tires, with all the hardware from the 6-7 inch kit.

Intially my answer was yes, that could be done. If money is no object, but is there anything I'm not thinking of?

Simply put, can you replace 6 inch springs with 4 inch to lower the lift height?

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Old 07-10-2008, 09:10 AM   #2
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yes. in fact someone recently started making 2.5" LA kits to compliment the highline fender kit.

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First, after the newness wears off, I think he'd regret installing that tall of a lift. Uber-tall lifts are fun at first but they are generally difficult or at least not inexpensive to get set up properly, not to mention the high center of gravity it causes which makes driving through off-camber or steep trail sections more difficult if not making his rig more likely to roll or flop.

But to answer your question, yes he could easily switch to a shorter spring though he'll also need shorter shock absorbers. The only possible problem would be on the trackbars. If he goes too much shorter than what he originally installed, the trackbars might be too long. However, even that is no big deal as all he would need to do is install shorter trackbars more appropriate to the shorter lift height. Oops one more thing... if he had a real tall lift and when to a significantly shorter lift, the longer driveshaft(s) he would have had to have installed would then probably be too long for the shorter lift height. Doable yes but I guess my best advice would be to start at a little shorter lift, one that is more typically seen... maybe 4.5 to 5.5" of lift which works well on pretty much even the toughest trails.
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Why not get a 5.5" la kit?
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The 5.5" was the first of choice, but having a front winch, Joe from Absolute Offroad advised going with another inch or so to compensate for the extra weight. Thanks for the feedback, that will help us evaluate it in a different way.
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Extra weight? The RE 5.5" LA lift routinely gives 6.5" in reality.
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Extra weight? The RE 5.5" LA lift routinely gives 6.5" in reality.
RK's 7" and 5.5" springs are both the same height, just different spring rates.

I'm sitting at 7" after my stretch, and it's not too tall at all. It's on 37's too. I thought it was going to be and I hesitated on moving from 5.5, but after we got done with it I was glad I had the extra belly clearance.

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Jack you need a better camera or figure out what too much backlighting is.
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Jack you need a better camera or figure out what too much backlighting is.
Old camera phone and bad lighting equals shitty pictures. I think it's the only one on flat ground that I have since the stretch.
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This might be a little better. It's way bright on top, but you can see the rig more.

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This might be a little better. It's way bright on top, but you can see the rig more.

Nope! Not better!.......................... you need to hire Ygohome to take pics for you.
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Nope! Not better!.......................... you need to hire Ygohome to take pics for you.
I think I need to hang out with one of you all. I never seem to get pics of my rig sitting flat on the ground.
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I think I need to hang out with one of you all. I never seem to get pics of my rig sitting flat on the ground.

Ouch! Guilty as charged.
Have you tried wheeling with one hand and photographing your self with the other. I'm never in any pics wheeling, always parked.
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Ouch! Guilty as charged.
Have you tried wheeling with one hand and photographing your self with the other. I'm never in any pics wheeling, always parked.
I've tried handing my camera out to a buddy while doing an obsticle before. All that got me was a broken camera when he dropped it.
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I'm too freaked out in the hard sections to think about getting good photos taken, I need to start remembering that kind of stuff.
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Hey, we're just going on Joe's advise. We are not to familiar with RE stuff, RK is what I have and what was in question. I spoke with Scout about going with the 5.5 RK he has and Joe convinced me to go with the 7" myself. I also have been very glad I did. I havent' been on anything but the medium difficulty rocks yet and the center of gravity has not yet been a problem.

When you start talking about the RE 5.5 netting out 6.5 then I guess the 7" isn't much different anyway. Thanks for the input.
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I certainly wouldn't go 7" if it were me and I love doing 5+ rated trails.
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I certainly wouldn't go 7" if it were me and I love doing 5+ rated trails.
Hell Jerry you are almost that high anyway. Don't you run RE 4.5" springs and a 1 or 1.25" body lift? You are probably sitting about 6" or 6.5" over stock at the bumpers right now.

I bet if I put my rig next to yours we'd be hard pressed to tell who's is higher.
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Yep jack but that 7" lift is probably not exactly 7" either.
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Yep jack but that 7" lift is probably not exactly 7" either.
Yeah, not anymore. Have you noticed your RE springs sagging much over time? I had RE 5.5" springs on mine for a few years and when I put the RK 5.5" springs in there was a helluva difference. I didn't go with the RK 7" springs when I did my stretch I have 1.75" spacers and Pro Crap 2.5" springs in the rear now. Heep sits more level than it has in years.
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I have the usual right-rear coil spring that is sagging a bit Jack, the rest of them seem ok. At least I think so, the heep is still as difficult to climb into as it was 4 years ago. I keep thinking I'll install a 3/4" spacer above the right rear spring (sheesh individual replacement springs are expensive) and will do so just as soon as I get a couple extra "round tuits".

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