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Old 06-12-2013, 06:31 AM   #1
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TJ frames

I have a 2000 Jeep wrangler that has a rotted out frame and cant pass inspection and i need a new frame now. I know that jeep has discontinued the frames for the TJ but i read somewhere and cant for the life of me find it again that there is a company that is about to start building and selling frames for TJ's. Does anyone know what company it is that is in the process of getting ready to start selling the frames?

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If you don't want to buy a new frame, you can try Daveysjeeps.com
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:57 AM   #4
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They still have them listed but when i emailed they told me that they are discontinued. i heard of another company that is going to start selling frames but cant seem to find the website again or remember who they were accept the name started with an A
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If you don't want to buy a new frame, you can try Daveysjeeps.com

They quoted me a higher price than the local jeep dealership down the street from me. the local dealership can get me a used grade A frame for cheaper but i would like to get new if i can
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If u do buy a used frame take a lil time and have it dipped if u can to remove all the corrosion then properly treat the inside of frame and paint the outside. Drill drain holes first! If u do that it should last u a long time.
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Seems a bit ridiculous that a 13 year old vehicle can no longer pass emissions from rust, I surely hope that Chrysler has corrected this in some way.
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Seems a bit ridiculous that a 13 year old vehicle can no longer pass emissions from rust, I surely hope that Chrysler has corrected this in some way.
the big issue is not what chrysler can/has done, its the chemicls states are using on the roads in the winter.
the stuff they use in salt states(which virginia, the OPs state uses) destroys metal.
now when you take a vehicle like a jeep, that can see a lot more time in watery/offroad conditions, you have something much more likely to damage any protective coating, have water trapped in places, etc. this all adds up to the potential of major rust problems.
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the big issue is not what chrysler can/has done, its the chemicls states are using on the roads in the winter.
the stuff they use in salt states(which virginia, the OPs state uses) destroys metal.
now when you take a vehicle like a jeep, that can see a lot more time in watery/offroad conditions, you have something much more likely to damage any protective coating, have water trapped in places, etc. this all adds up to the potential of major rust problems.

Am I mistaken to assume that the state should be liable if their products wreak so much havoc on the vehicles structural integrity?
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I just bought the jeep two months ago from a local dealership just after I moved out here on orders with the Coast Guard from California. I got the jeep and took it into a shop a few weeks after I bought it because the front end started making a loud popping noise while turning and braking only to find out that the jeep should have never passed the Virginia safety inspection due to severe rust on the frame which had areas that completely rusted through welds that hold on parts of the upper control arms and cracks in the frame mounts for the lower control arms. after I got the bad news I ran a carfax which says it has a clean title BUT the jeep came from New York. Long story shot I am calling lawyers to take this issue to court to pursue inspection fraud and misrepresentation of the jeep to either have them buy it back or sue for damages. I already have a quote from a body shop to fix the jeep for $4900 but in the meantime I am just trying to figure out where to get a new frame incase this falls threw and I have to fix it myself or if I get money from a lawsuit I will fix it myself and making sure the frame is well protected before installing it under the jeep.
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I thought most states have lemon laws, normally you have 90 days to take it back and they must refund the money if the vehicle is not in good condition. But I would still pursue the fact that it was a fraudulent inspection.
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I live in Illinois and road salt is a definite issue. I bought my 98 TJ about 5 years ago. The frame looked OK then. A couple of months ago when I had it on a lift changing oil, I noticed some rust issues. I took it to an acquaintance that owns a body shop. The frame was beyond repair. I decided to have him put a good used frame under it. It's taken him three tries to get a useable frame, but he says it's coming together now. While it was apart, I got new shocks and exhaust for it too. I was thinking of a lift, but there are too many issues, so I'm leaving it stock. While I off road it, I don't get too extreme. Just want to get back on the road (and off) with the top down!
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Am I mistaken to assume that the state should be liable if their products wreak so much havoc on the vehicles structural integrity?
Not mistaken at all. Most states buy all the millions of drivers registered in their jurisdiction a new car every couple years or so due to their use of road salts. A couple years ago they tried to fart our magical pixie dust and candy to keep the roads safe but their funding was cut so they had to just do what everyone else in the world does and use road salt. The "new car every 3 years program", better known as NCE3YP, was started instead. I'm surprised you haven't heard about it in your state. Maybe you should go to the DMV and inquire about it?

Or just wash the bottom of your car in the winters like everyone else that has half a brain and gives two shits about their vehicle does.
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Not mistaken at all. Most states buy all the millions of drivers registered in their jurisdiction a new car every couple years or so due to their use of road salts. A couple years ago they tried to fart our magical pixie dust and candy to keep the roads safe but their funding was cut so they had to just do what everyone else in the world does and use road salt. The "new car every 3 years program", better known as NCE3YP, was started instead. I'm surprised you haven't heard about it in your state. Maybe you should go to the DMV and inquire about it?

Or just wash the bottom of your car in the winters like everyone else that has half a brain and gives two shits about their vehicle does.
Cool story bro can you tell it again so I may pass it along to my grand children as the fabled speech of our time?
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Am I mistaken to assume that the state should be liable if their products wreak so much havoc on the vehicles structural integrity?
nope.
its all done so the roads dont freeze over when it gets cold.
for the greater good and what not
and it wouldnt be just the state. Salt State is simply a term used to descride a state in which the stuff is used to deal with freezing roads. the party responsible for applying it could be the state, local county, private company, etc. depends on where exactly you are.
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Cool story bro can you tell it again so I may pass it along to my grand children as the fabled speech of our time?
Hey you asked a dumb question, so you got an appropriate answer. Unless you have a solution for how the states would go about reimbursing all those slighted drivers who can't be bothered to take care of their car after driving on roads that were made safer through the process? Or perhaps the states should just let the chips fall where they may and let everyone wreck their vehicles?
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That's as asinine as saying that older mechanics should of blew their nose and brushed their teeth more often to prevent mesothelioma because of brake pads and clutches containing asbestos. You may delay the end result but its going to happen regardless. If a state is applying a product to the roads that deteriorates the structural integrity of a vehicle making it unsafe then that's obviously a problem.

Next time you deem it necessary to troll legitimate questions just move along, my responses aren't going to be filled with goody goody gum drops over your snide comments.
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That's as asinine as saying that older mechanics should of blew their nose and brushed their teeth more often to prevent mesothelioma because of brake pads and clutches containing asbestos. You may delay the end result but its going to happen regardless. If a state is applying a product to the roads that deteriorates the structural integrity of a vehicle making it unsafe then that's obviously a problem.

Next time you deem it necessary to troll legitimate questions just move along, my responses aren't going to be filled with goody goody gum drops over your snide comments.
LOL you are acting as if this is the first time you have ever heard of the phenomenon. Were you not aware prior to reading this post that states used salt to make the roads safe in the winter? Or were you not aware that salt deteriorates the underdeck of a vehicle? Or do you think you just had the first big idea ever to make states reimburse people for that and nobody had ever thought of that for you? Furthermore, did you actually think that was a legitimate idea? How do you propose the states raise the millions (billions?) of dollars to accomplish that? Or again, should they just let the roads ice over and let the chips fall where they may?

I'm not trolling, I would just like to hear your opinions on how to tackle this huge national issue that you seem to have keen insight into.
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LOL you are acting as if this is the first time you have ever heard of the phenomenon. Were you not aware prior to reading this post that states used salt to make the roads safe in the winter? Or were you not aware that salt deteriorates the underdeck of a vehicle? Or do you think you just had the first big idea ever to make states reimburse people for that and nobody had ever thought of that for you? Furthermore, did you actually think that was a legitimate idea? How do you propose the states raise the millions (billions?) of dollars to accomplish that? Or again, should they just let the roads ice over and let the chips fall where they may?

I'm not trolling, I would just like to hear your opinions on how to tackle this huge national issue that you seem to have keen insight into.
I'm fully aware of states applying salt to roads, however the only extent of rust damage I've experienced are fenders and floor pans rotting out, thin sheet metal items not frames. In my city the roads are plowed immediately and gravel is applied, so it's nothing equivalent to what the OP is experiencing.
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try Auto Rust Technicians - since 1977 and replace the piece you need.
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try Auto Rust Technicians - since 1977 and replace the piece you need.

I took the jeep in and had it inspected with the state trooper there and the trooper as well as the person doing the inspection said that the entire frame needed to be replaced due to severe rust throughout the entire frame. It is rusting from the inside out and while they were doing the inspection they found multiple areas throughout the entire frame that looked good from the outside only to find out that the frame was literally paper thin.
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I took the jeep in and had it inspected with the state trooper there and the trooper as well as the person doing the inspection said that the entire frame needed to be replaced due to severe rust throughout the entire frame. It is rusting from the inside out and while they were doing the inspection they found multiple areas throughout the entire frame that looked good from the outside only to find out that the frame was literally paper thin.
I m sorry to her that. I don't know where your t but I would check daveys jeep in ohio.
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For chits and giggles I just sent an inquiry to Delorean motor company suggesting they might use there expertise with stainless steel to make a TJ frame.

I am loling right now but, hey, you never know.

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