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Old 01-21-2011, 12:15 PM   #1
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TJ Tie Rod Systems

I drive a 99 TJ with a 4" lift and the front end is starting to get a little sloppy. Took it in to get aligned and it turns out the tie rod ends and the pitman arm are pretty worn out.

I am looking to replace the entire thing since the stock components are flimsy. Any suggestions on upgrades. Been looking at the Currie system as my high end for price. Anyone know of anything cheaper that will beef it up and still be pretty strong? I've looked and the Rough Trail and Rugged Ridge, just wondering how durable they may be and if anyone has done the swap for heavy duty components.

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I bit on the rugged ridge two years ago and you can have mine. I took it off after 3 or 4 months. All their TRE's were sloppy and it added more problems than cured. Also put a big dead spot in the steering. I recommend getting the Currie or just putting new TREs on yours if you can't afford it. Thats what I did and it's good. Do you have a stock pitman arm? Cannot see how a pitman arm could wear out. you can borrow the TRE puller at auto zone or oreilly's.

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Old 01-21-2011, 05:17 PM   #3
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Try JCR Offroad in Michigan. I had one of theirs put on and do some pretty tough trails at and offroad park and it has been holding up great.
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:29 PM   #4
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go with Currie or a Crown HD system. The Crown system is just a stock draglink and ZJ v8 tie-rod.
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:36 PM   #5
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:58 PM   #6
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Got the Curry setup on mine with a 4.5 " RE superflex lift.Solid as a rock,easy install too.4oo bucks is a lot,but it comes with the tie rod and drag link,not just the tierod like some of the others you mentioned.Im happy with it,running 35" tires..
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:36 PM   #7
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Did the Currie sys on mine about 2 yrs ago. Night and day when compared to stock. I just broke my tie-rod off in the woods, so dont think they are indestructable. As soon as I got home, i ordered a Currie replacement, and as soon as that hole i fell into thaws out, imma fish the old tie rod out, replace the ends and have a spare.
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I have the Crown HD system. As said it is just the ZJ steering. Don't get me wrong it is very beefy. Also unlike the other setups in this price range this comes with all new TRE's. Meaning a drag link, tie rod and two TRE's. It also comes with a new steering stabilizer. It is all 1" solid rod instead of .88" O.D. tubing. It has adjusting sleeves so it is very easy to align. And mine is doing just fine after 6 months.

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Oh yea, almost forgot a great plus to this system over all others. These are stock parts and you can get replacements at practically any auto store. No need to trailer your rig home if you brake/bend your steering. Just pick up the replacement nearby and your good to go! I also want to point out that steering system aren't built to be indestructible. What do you want braking first; your tie rod or your knuckle.
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how tight are your tie rod ends supposed to be? i have a currie setup from the previous owner who also bent the lower tie rod on a rock. he told me to just tie a strap to a tree and straighten it out. i dont think i am going to go that route. I can also grab the stabilizer and there is play in the drag link/tie rod connection as well as play in the TREs. again, how tight are these joints supposed to be?
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how tight are your tie rod ends supposed to be? i have a currie setup from the previous owner who also bent the lower tie rod on a rock. he told me to just tie a strap to a tree and straighten it out. i dont think i am going to go that route. I can also grab the stabilizer and there is play in the drag link/tie rod connection as well as play in the TREs. again, how tight are these joints supposed to be?
The TRE's shouldn't move much, if at all. Any slop in the TRE could easily give you death wobble, wandering, or/and loose steering. The drag link and tie rod should be able to rotate but if you can jiggle your tie rod side to side or it makes any clunking or noise you should replace it.

Here is a bad tie rod. You can see he can move his knuckle without the rod moving. And you can hear a clunking noise.


Here is a good one on how to check.



edit: Also I would not try to bend the tie rod back by tying it to a tree and driving the vehicle. You could easily bend it to far out or destroy it all together. The more accepted way to fix it is to use a bottle jack at the bend point and precicly bend it straight. Also you WILL need to align it again. Any bend at all however minute will throw off your alignment and could cause wandering and uneven tire wear. It's no wonder your TRE's have play.
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:02 AM   #11
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Great response. A bad TRE is extremely dangerous and when you replace one you could easily replace the others. This is a relatively easy replacement and just a few tools to get the job done. Jerry has several posts on how to remove them, but I have always used a tie rod puller and pb blaster. Use quality TRE's when you replace and you will not believe how good your steering will feel.
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:25 PM   #12
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wow. great responses. i'll check out the videos when i get home. sounds like a new/replacement currie kit with currie johnny joint track bar are in order for me. was trying to save money for other things.
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Thanks for all the feedback, my questions have been answered. Looks like I'll be going with the Currie.
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i have a currie setup from the previous owner who also bent the lower tie rod on a rock. he told me to just tie a strap to a tree and straighten it out.
that will work in a pinch for a quick fix, but now you're stressed the metal and it's now weaker.. it won't take much to bend it again.. i can't afford to replace all my steering, but i did just order the Heavy Duty Tie Rod by Rock Krawler from www.4wd.com because i've been thru a few tie rods myself and sometimes they're hard to find on a saturday night in east texas..
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The ZJ swap is a great choice if you want to stick with something that looks and acts OEM. Otherwise, the HD upgrade that JCR sells (and that your local shops can easily duplicate) is a great idea, too. With these two options available, I can't see the point in paying for the Currie system or running the RR system, with its reputed wheel clearance issues and all.
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I know currie's reputation but I like the idea of the Crown with stock parts that I can get at the parts store.

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