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Old 06-18-2013, 02:24 PM   #1
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Track bar

So i have a 97 with 215000 on it and my track bar needs replacing thats a good life span for a stock track bar right? Well i have a 2 inch lift with 33's and i do twisting sometimes can the stock track bar handle that cause i dont wanna spend the money on an after market one

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Old 06-18-2013, 09:41 PM   #2
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You could replace the bushings. Stock trackbars are pretty tough for most folks wheeling. However, at a 2" lift an adjustable might be a good investment. Any plans on going higher than 2"? I ask because many are only adjustable within a range of lift heights.

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Old 06-19-2013, 05:16 AM   #3
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Nope im sticking with the 2 i like the set up
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:31 AM   #4
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How hard do you offload?
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Not overly hard
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:23 PM   #6
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Not overly hard
You'll be fine with a stock track bar. Mine was perfectly fine when I tossed it. I couldn't give it away. Post to a local Jeep club site and you'll probably find someone with one taking up space in there garage.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:40 PM   #7
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I just replaced my stock with an adjustable one from Rough Country. People on here advised against them but I decided to try it and I am very happy. They are comparable in price to a standard track bar.
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with only a 2" lift, stick with the stock track bar unless you want to open a can of worms with major clearance issues.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:11 PM   #9
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Yeah. Don't go with the RC one for sure. I've seen the clearance issuers along with the other issues of the RC track bar.

And as unlimited suggested, just stick with the stock one for a 2" lift.
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I really don't know what issues you guys are talking about. I haven't had any clearance issues and it is really solid. I work at a research foundation and a major no no is allowing an isolated case to represent the majority. Typically angry people are more likely to share their experience than happy people so on forums, topics always fall on the side of negative experiences. If they were as bad as everybody says they'd be out of business. Would I rock crawl with them? Absolutely not, but for a pavement princess who plays in the mud from time to time, RC is sufficient.
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Oh, and for the record, if I wasn't on a budget I'd only use metalcloak.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:35 PM   #12
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Would I rock crawl with them? Absolutely not, but for a pavement princess who plays in the mud from time to time, RC is sufficient.
That's the issue with them for people that do like to rock crawl or wheel uneven terrain. It's when the suspension is flexed out that you'll run into clearance issues.

For your purposes, that is fine and you spent wisely. There's no point in buying junk that you won't use as it was intended.
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I read that the new ones have bigger curve for the diff and I extended my bumpstops the same amount that I lifted my jeep. I measured and at compression the diff appears to be clear. The only issue is I don't have crazy articulation but that isn't what I was after anyway.
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For your purposes, that is fine and you spent wisely.
not necessarily.

if you haven't checked full bump, you don't know if you have clearance issues or not - and that means you're not qualified to deny having issues.

on top of that, the street is where you need to be worried about it. if your track bar is bouncing off your diff a lot and as a result breaks, then you lose all steering. that means 75 mph on the highway hit a big bump, and lose all steering and you have no control over the vehicle.
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not necessarily.

if you haven't checked full bump, you don't know if you have clearance issues or not - and that means you're not qualified to deny having issues.

on top of that, the street is where you need to be worried about it. if your track bar is bouncing off your diff a lot and as a result breaks, then you lose all steering. that means 75 mph on the highway hit a big bump, and lose all steering and you have no control over the vehicle.
True. I didn't think about full bump. Thanks for catching it.
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I have a 2.5 inch lift and added 3 inches to my front bumps to assure I don't stuff my bigger tires into the fenders. Even compressed I'm a good way from the diff.
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I have a 2.5 inch lift and added 3 inches to my front bumps to assure I don't stuff my bigger tires into the fenders. Even compressed I'm a good way from the diff.
this means you can't recommend the track bar you have without 3" bumpstop extensions. that's the necessary caveat you left out in your previous posts.

this caveat also tells us you don't care (or don't know) much about suspension travel. you've lost 1/2" uptravel compared to stock, and depending on the shock length numbers, you may actually have less overall travel than stock.

if you're going to install a lift, shouldn't you do it to improve things, not make them worse?
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Ummm notice that I asked how hard he was wheeling. That was a qualifier to see if my suggestion was helpful. And I certainly didn't make my jeep worse, I selected what I did to make it do exactly want I wanted and it shines within my specs. Not everybody wants/needs a rock crawler unlimited, some of us just want a well rounded ride.
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Ummm notice that I asked how hard he was wheeling. That was a qualifier to see if my suggestion was helpful. And I certainly didn't make my jeep worse, I selected what I did to make it do exactly want I wanted and it shines within my specs. Not everybody wants/needs a rock crawler unlimited, some of us just want a well rounded ride.
I don't understand why people seem to think I'm some hardcore rock crawler. I'm definitely not.

I want to improve a Jeep's performance on-road, and off. That means doing stuff that improves the ride & driveability...and part of that is overall suspension travel.

If you had to bumpstop the hell out of your suspension, and have less travel than stock, then you have in fact made things worse....even if it only goes to the mall. as long as you're ok with that, no harm no foul.
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I did the bumps to a avoid stuffing my tires, that had nothing to do with the track bar. Listen, you're a smart guy and have a lot of good info but your delivery sucks. You don't give advice without it coming across as a personal attack. The point is, some people may do it differently than you and that is cool. My jeep rides awesome, it does exactly what I want, and I kept it in budget. What is the problem with that if I want to share my good luck with others?
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What is the problem with that if I want to share my good luck with others?
if you want less than stock, that's your decision.

the problem comes in when you suggest a product, without thoroughly testing it or understanding the problems that arise as a result.

you can't say your track bar clears or that you don't have issues - unless you include the fact that you have 3" bumpstop extensions.

you haven't tested it without bumpstop extensions, or with anything less than 3". so, you don't know if you have issues below that much bump - therefore you can't recommend it for any bump less than that.

I'm guessing you haven't even done a full cycle test with the 3" bumps.

and the OP has a 2" lift. if he installed 3" bumps like you did, he'd also be losing a bunch of travel over stock...which kind of defeats the whole purpose of the lift.
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I'm done arguing with you. People have warned me about you. I'm not going to engage some Internet know it all in a pissing contest. You want to be right so badly, be my guest.
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I'm done arguing with you. People have warned me about you. I'm not going to engage some Internet know it all in a pissing contest. You want to be right so badly, be my guest.
I'm not trying to argue with you.

I'm approaching this scientifically, and if you think otherwise that's your personally misguided interpretation.
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I think I am going to make a hurt feelings report for wrangler forum lol.

The truth of the matter is, unlimited is not only VERY knowledgeable, he takes the time to answer questions in a very straightforward way. This does two things. First, you get your answer in a very direct manner without having to read through three pages to decipher it. Second, it keeps from cluttering up threads.

This guy answers a LOT of questions for people and I can tell you he doesn't intend to be mean or a know-it-all. He truly wants people to consider all things when making their mods....isn't that the point of the forum?

I have learned a LOT from people like unlimited (Blaine, Bransford, etc.).

Put your ego aside and you would see Jeeps in a whole new light!
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:43 PM   #25
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with only a 2" lift, stick with the stock track bar unless you want to open a can of worms with major clearance issues.
Yep. With 2" of lift there is NOTHING that will do better.
Just remember: once you let someone drill out your mount, there is NO GOING BACK.

Every trackbar (and I've tried three since I made that mistake) has rubbed my differential cover. Just a rotten chase away from mediocracy. Stick with stock.

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