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Old 10-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #1
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Transmission

Hello!

This is regarding transmission replacement but I better give some background first! Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can give.

I bought a 2005 TJ (automatic) in Feb. In August it was serviced but I felt some vibration after the roof was reattached. One month later the rear drive shaft fell off. I hadn't been offroad at all. The drive shaft, transfer case and radiator were replaced for $2,500. The car was serviced.

2 days later I took it for a run in the UAE dessert. I wasn't jumping dunes or anything but I was driving on and off for 4 hours in Dubai autumn heat, so the rest periods could have been longer. I lost reverse gear first and then the drive gear followed suit. The mechanic confirmed overheating had shattered the aluminum housing.

I understand the solution involves opening the transmission box and replacing all clutch gears, seals, gaskets and solenoid oils and housing chemicals. The torque convertor also needs draining to have the oils replaced and welded back together (or replaced altogether as a safer option to avoid losing power).

I would like to learn to fix this myself to avoid enormous bills (which are the norm for any reputable garage in Dubai) but don't feel this is the right job for a fisherprice style "my first mechanic" lesson.

My questions/issues surrounding are:

-Did the transmission box overheat or was the transfer case/drive shaft put back together loosely (maybe a bolt got loose and broke the transmission?)...obviously impossible to prove!

-I have been quoted $1,250 for a new set of gears/seals/gaskets and repairing the torque convertor. Basic set (not heavy duty/racing).
Is it true that there is no heavy duty options for an automatic? This sounds steep, is this price way off?

Sincerely,

Desperate expat looking for reliable parts.

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Old 10-20-2013, 11:10 AM   #2
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Welcome! A 2005 is a TJ, not a YJ. I have a 2006 with an automatic. Automatic transmissions are a whole other animal than a manual. I would not attempt to repair your automatic transmission yourself. Not that you couldn't do it, but you'll need some special tools and you have to keep it very very clean. You could remove it yourself and save some money. Removing it is pretty easy. If I were you, I'd look into the cost of a replacement transmission. Like, a new one. It will be more money, but will likely be better than a rebuilt one. I've never had to look into it for my Jeep, but that's probably something I'd consider. Heat is the #1 enemy of a transmission. But that will wear out the pads in there. Not break the gears. I'm guessing that whoever put it back together, might have done something wrong. Like I say, look at getting a new one. I don't know what that would cost in Dubai.

I've been to Dubai and the UAE many times. It's a pretty amazing place! Are you an Emirati or an Ex-pat?

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Old 10-20-2013, 11:23 AM   #3
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Thanks for quick reply Chief! I'm a British expat here, we are pretty common unfortunately...or fortunately?! Did you go offroad in UAE?

Ha -I did actually know it is a TJ...I have a YJ as well, hence the typo! The YJ is a lot more fun. It's taken it's fair share of knocks off road -I actually snapped the front axle last week- but they just keep on going! I like the control on the sand as well, you can feel every movement.

As for the transmission, yes don't worry I am definitely getting a new one, that quote from the mechanic was for a new one. I think it is just for the pads, so when I say 'gears' that could just be my ignorance. Basically there's a box that comes with a full set of 9 gears(?), pads and seals that go inside the transmission box.

I am more than happy to pay for the labour, I just want to make sure I am not getting shafted on the parts.
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:40 AM   #4
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Ah, I've realized you mean replace the whole transmission rather than just it's "soft" components. This would be extremely expensive surely...are you suggesting that this would be an easier DIY job?
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:45 AM   #5
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Logical website...
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:17 PM   #6
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Never got to go off roading there. I'm in the US Air Force so, they don't let us have much fun. HA! I am not sure what a new one would cost you. I had a transmission go out in a van I owned a few years ago. I opted to have it rebuilt. Cost me about $1,700 by the time it was all said and done and that was with me removing it and reinstalling it myself. A new transmission was $1,850. I wish I had gone that route instead.
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:24 PM   #7
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noted, thanks.
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:31 PM   #8
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Sounds like someone needs a external transmission cooler.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:25 PM   #9
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10-4 on the trans cooler, I had some heating issues in my trans cooler fixed.
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:11 AM   #10
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List of jobs on transmission:

1) ATM full seal & gasket kit
2) ATM full clutch kit
3) ATM full washer & shim kit
4) ATM main drum (aluminum big part the clutches are going in
5) ATM torque Convertor needs repairing
6) ATM solenoid kit
7) oil & consumables (chemicals) to flush the system

...which apparently is better off than a new transmission.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:47 AM   #11
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Pm sent.. Are you going to DIY or in a garage?

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