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Old 04-02-2014, 07:15 PM   #1
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Transmission filter

Ok so I know that changing the trans filter is not a hundred percent flush of the tranny but it hasn't been shifting very good since I put my new motor in. I have topped off all the fluids and made sure everything was hooked up right. I'm just curious if there are any obsticalls that I may run into when changing the filter.

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Old 04-02-2014, 07:27 PM   #2
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Any chance you just need to adjust the linkage since you put a new motor in? I wouldn't drop the pan and swap the filter unless I was going to run a case of new ATF+4 in there to get the old stuff out of the torque converter, but that's me.

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Old 04-02-2014, 07:31 PM   #3
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How do you adjust the linkage on an automatic? Might be a dumb question it just seems like it's not wanting to shift out of third and it raps it's self out and loads up on fuel if I let off the gas it will shift fine. First to second is good but third to fourth is a little tricky. Any other ideas on something else being wrong. I did do a body lift to it as well which could be the culprit as well
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I was thinking the shift cable but given what you just said it sounds like the solenoid maybe. So it's the up shift into OD only? The kick down and other up shifts work as they should?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:55 PM   #5
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Yes it does kick down just fine if it's a solenoid you think I should just start saving or do you think doing the pan drop night help or do you think it would hurt more.
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I'd definitely look at the fluid and filter if it was mine, it never hurts to check for abnormal wear signs when there's an issue in my opinion. Do you know when the last time the fluid was changed and if it was just a dump and fill or if the old stuff in the torque converter got flushed out?
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:10 PM   #7
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Also, I don't know the test procedure for the solenoid pack on the 42rle in the Jeep. The part is probably close to $200 so I'd definitely want to determine the actual cause of the problem prior to throwing parts at it.
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:18 PM   #8
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I don't know when the last time it was totally flushed. I have owned the jeep for a year and a half and never had it done it is just now crossed over 160k I'm just thinking that a cheap 40 dollar filter and pan drop wouldn't be to bad of a place to start.
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I asked a mechanic friend about this and he said to never just replace the filter. If the fluid is cooked, you will know. Check your fluid and inspect the color and give it a good smell.

If it smells burnt then you need to flush the system completely and replace the filter. If you look in your owners manual there are specific intervals Jeep recommends for doing a system flush.

I wasn't sure when I got my Jeep and checked my fluid - it was burnt, badly and when it was cold, sometimes my transmission would slip between 1st and 2nd while accelerating.

Since I had the system serviced, this has only happened once and the truck just runs smoother. It's cheap insurance and if it fixes the problem consider yourself lucky!
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:08 AM   #10
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@160k miles and not knowing when it was last changed, but knowing it's been at least a year, I would definitely change it out. I would drop the pan, inspect the fluid, replace the filter and gasket, bolt the pan up, disconnect the return line at the radiator, connect a hose that goes to a bucket, put in 4 quarts, start the rig and run it with the transmission pump on (I thought all stationary TJ's only pumped in N, the 42rle apparently also pumps in P), add fluid as it pumps out until you have a gallon or so in the bucket, shut it off, reconnect the return line at the radiator, fill and check level, enjoy.

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Old 04-03-2014, 01:06 PM   #11
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When I disconnect the return line is that gonna cause it to push fluid all over the place and which one of the lines is the return the passenger side I assume?
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@160k miles and not knowing when it was last changed, but knowing it's been at least a year, I would definitely change it out. I would drop the pan, inspect the fluid, replace the filter and gasket, bolt the pan up, disconnect the return line at the radiator, connect a hose that goes to a bucket, put in 4 quarts, start the rig and run it with the transmission pump on (I thought all stationary TJ's only pumped in N, the 42rle apparently also pumps in P), add fluid as it pumps out until you have a gallon or so in the bucket, shut it off, reconnect the return line at the radiator, fill and check level, enjoy. Filter kit: ~$20 ATF+4 case: $~80 Knowing you did it right: Priceless.
Would this work with the 30rh? The auto for 99 2.5L SE
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Passenger side at the radiator was the return on both my 32rh and my 42rle I believe. If you don't have a hose on the fitting, yes it will go everywhere. A little bit comes out when you pull the line. I put down a dog training pad on some cardboard when I mess with the fluid stuff.

I don't know if the 30rh only pumps in N like the 32rh I had in my '99 or not. You can figure it out though when you get there as it will either be moving the fluid or it won't. I'd try N or get some input from someone who knows for sure. Other than that the procedure would be pretty much the same for any AT that I've had.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:45 PM   #14
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Oh, and the little clip on the fittings for the later TJ/LJ is a bit odd if you're not familiar, just pop the little c clip and don't lose it.
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What do I do if I can't get that hose off the fitting
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What do I do if I can't get that hose off the fitting
You said 4speed but just to be sure we're on the same page; what year is your jeep? Why can you not get it off exactly?
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:10 PM   #17
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If you have the 42rle you should have this at the radiator:



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You pop the whit plastic part back and it exposes the c clip that you need to remove to release the line.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:25 PM   #18
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Mine is an 04 tj rubicon not real sure what trans is in it haven't had the time to crawl underneath it. My transmission lines are on screw in type fittings.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:35 PM   #19
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You have the 42rle. The pic above is from my '06, at the radiator. It should look like that I believe. Either way, you should have no issues disconnecting at that location regardless of fitting type.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:50 PM   #20
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Ok I can get the fitting to unscrew from the radiator I just can't get the rubber line to come off of the fitting
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Old 04-03-2014, 03:05 PM   #21
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Can you take a picture and post it up?
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Old 04-03-2014, 03:26 PM   #22
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Yes I will this evening.
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Old 04-03-2014, 04:19 PM   #23
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If you want the longer versions of the write-ups, they helped me plan it out.

Transmission Flush And Filter
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That bolt looking you see in the pic is a actually holdin coolant in. Don't remove it. Undo the clip and wiggle the line out. I had to wiggle a little side to side and use an insert, remove, insert, remove motion to get it free.
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My transmission lines are screwed in I know what the petcock for the coolant looks like a wing nut almost
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The fitting that screws in at the transmission line will leak coolant if you unscrew it at the radiator. Unless someone altered your fitting in some way that renders it impossible to function or we are talking about two different things your fitting should look like my picture above. It should also disconnect as I described, not unscrew.
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See the nut in my pic? Don't unscrew it.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:24 PM   #28
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Nope my fittings are different not sure why but I just ordered a new radiator and the new radiator is set up te same way. It's got two brass fittings that screw into the radiator and has two rubber lines that are clamped on with regular hose clamps. I'm use to seeing hoses like what you got full aluminum lines but mine are formed lines all the way to the front of the motor then they are formed into rubber lines. I didn't get a chance to take a picture tonight due to bad weather rolling through our area but I will take one in the morning.
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Cool. Whatever attaches the hose to the fitting is what you'll want to remove I'm sure, but the picture will make it crystal clear for those of us that are confused.
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I found a picture online of what it is. Here is what my hoses look like.
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