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Old 11-04-2013, 09:03 AM   #1
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Exclamation Transmission Removal Help!

I couldnt find the right thread for this exact topic so Im posting one now, I apologize if there already is one and I missed it.

Im currently in the process of removing my transmission for a clutch replacement and its my first time.

I have all of the bolts out except that last E12 bolt up top, and of course, I don't have the right socket...The problem is there isn't one store here on the island of key west that has it...do I NEED to remove that bolt for the trans removal or is it ready to pull?

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Old 11-04-2013, 09:08 AM   #2
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That E12 bolt has to come out. Some manage to get it out with a 12-pt. 10mm socket but that's not really the right tool for it.

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Old 11-04-2013, 10:07 AM   #3
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That was such a bugger for me to get out as well. Even with my 1.25BL and extentions my neighbor and I still had issues with leverage. We were able to get it out with the 12pt 10mm as Jerry said, but we also had to switch gears to an air ratchet. It was such a pain in the ass!
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:44 AM   #4
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Hi,
I did change my clutch recently as well, and yes you must remove those 2 bolts on top of the bell housing, ideally with a E12 socket.
Even with the correct tools, I struggled to remove one of them which was really stuck and damage the head while trying but finally got it out.
Without the proper socket, well, I think I could not have removed it to be honest with you...
You can lower the jack you probably have under the transmission to get a better access to those 2 and that should help.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:25 AM   #5
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I bought an E12 universal socket just for this and used an extension(s).
Those bolts are in a difficult spot but not impossible.
When you reinstall don't re-use them.... I recommend using grade 8 hex head replacement bolts for those two so you don't have to endure this again.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:18 PM   #6
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I remembered this morning that we have a sears here in key west, so I walked in and low and behold they had the torx socket set right there in front of my eyes...I totally forgot about sears, and they had the best selection of tools on the island! Imagine that...

So I removed the trans and took it apart and unfortunately found out its worse than I thought. Here are a few pictures of what the damage is...


Hopefully this picture isn't too big...Still trying to figure out how to resize them.

Heres a picture of the right side of the Throwout lever Fork, not sure what caused this disaster:


Heres a closer look...

As you can see the Fork Is damaged on the right side and the release bearing is in a million different rings...Ball bearings and debris are EVERYWHERE and....
You cant really see the worst of it...The front main drive Gear retainer is cracked at the base by the seal AND it is split into two pieces...So that's another $100 of parts and two days of being jeep-less It is a sad day indeed, but a fun project none the less.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:21 PM   #7
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I found these parts on Quadratec.com for a good price:

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but does anyone have any recommendations of where else I should shop? The brand Im looking at is crown, do they have reliable parts being inside of my transmission?
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I'd go right to RockAuto Parts Catalog who will be a LOT cheaper for parts and shipping than Quadratech in addition to having a MUCH better selection of what you need. I might buy rubber floor mats from Quadratec but that's about it.
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You should be able to find most of that stuff on rockauto, but you won't find the main drive gear seal retainer... When I found a similar situation inside my bellhousing, I searched high and low for that piece. The dealer wanted almost $200, and no auto parts store could find it for me. Quadratec had it for a decent price through their Crown replacement parts catalog, but they were back-ordered, and the Jeep was still a daily driver at that point. I finally called a local transmission shop who knew exactly what I was talking about, and had several of them on his shelf for $45. Sometimes it pays to call around!

Good luck with the replacement, you get a pretty nice sense of accomplishment once it's all put back together and driving smoothly again!
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I'd go right to RockAuto Parts Catalog who will be a LOT cheaper for parts and shipping than Quadratech in addition to having a MUCH better selection of what you need. I might buy rubber floor mats from Quadratec but that's about it.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:19 AM   #11
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Well I went to Rock auto and they didn't have the main drive gear retainer. Quadratec had all the parts I needed by the same brand (Crown). And I wasn't that disappointed with the price. But I did really like the Rock auto selection other wise, so thank you for that recommendation!

Im in a tight squeeze for time seeing as I set out for sea soon and I need to get it fixed before we get underway.

The parts should be here tomorrow, but today the slave comes in the mail so Im going to bench bleed it and get that all set up. Plus I couldn't find a small enough bearing puller ANYWHERE on this god forsaken island so Im going to have to remove the flywheel and Press the bearing out.

And since I've been up underneath the motor so much lately Ive noticed small leaking of oil coming from the head. Now I know that's a common problem and so is the clicking sound that comes from the rods or the rockers or whatever in the I6's but is it something I should address immediately or do you think its ok to leave for a while? Should I at least remove and replace the head gasket?

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