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Old 05-19-2010, 09:53 AM   #1
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tune up question

hey gang,

thanks as always for all of your support and answers to my seemingly endless barrage of questions.

I was thinking that it must be time for a tuneup. I asked my mechanic and he said it'd probably run right around 200 for a complete tuneup for my jeep. I drive a 6 cylinder 99 wrangler.

here are my questions:

is this price in line with what i can expect for a complete and thorough tuneup? He's a very good mechanic and has never - in 5 years - steered me wrong.

secondly, what all is actually done in a complete tuneup?

thirdly, when they rotate tires, do they automatically balance them?

sorry again for my ignorance!

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Old 05-19-2010, 10:00 AM   #2
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After he buys the spark plugs and a wire set he's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $50. An air filter (assuming that's part of his "complete" tun up) will run 12-15 bucks.. but if you trust him then let the guy do it for you. He's probably charging you half for time and half for parts. He's got to make a buck. My idea of a tune up is: spark plugs, plug wires, air filter... but "complete" may include fuel filters and just basically making sure your rig is idling correctly.

A rotation doesn't usually include balancing in my experience.

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Old 05-19-2010, 10:11 AM   #3
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That's what I'm thinking. depends on what all is changed but usually parts and labor run half and half. Air filter is easy to change, plugs and wires not too bad, depends on what is in the way. Oil and oil filter, transmission fluid and filter.

All that would run more than $200.

I've got someone I pay to do stuff like that. I could do it but I don't have the time, proper tools, or patience. Most mechanics do it all day, every day so it's second nature to them.

One thing you could do is let him do it and be there when he does it to get an idea of what it takes, get your hands dirty, a little experience you know? That way later you can do it yourself later on this or another vehicle.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:13 AM   #4
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1 and 2 - complete tune up is very subjective. it depends on what his definition of "complete" is.

3 - no they don't always balance the tires when rotating. actually they usually don't balance them when rotating.(assume no, unless they say "rotate and balance")
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:17 AM   #5
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I would ask him to explain exactly everything he will be doing for that $200 which sounds excessive to me.
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:06 AM   #6
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My definition of tune up for my 98 was this:

plugs = 12.00
wires = 32.00
Distibutor cap = 10.00
Rotor button = 8.00

My filter is a K&N so nothing done there.

All parts totaled = 63 bucks and I put it all in myself in about an hour.

Save yourself some money and do this yourself, its all very simple plus you can buy the kind of parts YOU want not the elcheapo parts that the mechanics put in.
On a side note, it is very good that you have a mechanic you can trust cause in this day its hard to come across that.
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I agree with post #5 & #6. All the stuff it easy to do. I've been tuning my vehicles up myself since I was 16 and I'm not any kind of mechanic or anything. Besides... it's rewarding. Save the trips to the mechanics (and your money) for when you really need a serious job done. And they often do use the cheapest crap, while you can shop for a good deal on the stuff you want. And agreeing with Jerry's comments.. if you do let the guy do it, get a clear detailed explanation of what all "complete" means.
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My definition of a "complete" tune up for my '99 4.0L is as follows:

Spark plugs, wires, Distributor cap and rotor, tire rotation, FULL Synthetic oil change w/ a good oil filter. I also do some basics like tire pressure, wiper blades, etc....

I can do all this myself in under 2 hours, and it cost me like about $165. I do most of these items yearly. I doubt, your mechanic will do all of this for 200 bucks.

Do it yourself, its fun, you save money, and its the only way you know for sure you got quality parts and labor!
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One thing to keep in mind is that ignition wire sets can be expensive and it is definitely not required to replace them during a normal tuneup. I might replace them every 75K miles if they are showing signs of aging but that's about it.
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Dont forget all your belts,

I basically do a "complete tune up" every 100,000 km or when i think it needs it...

When i do it i will change:
Spark plugs
Wires (and everything goes with them including cap..)
all filters oil and gas and air
change engine oil, and maybe tranny (depending on who was driving)
check diffs (do that every oil change to make sure no water)
check all belts, and change any that have wear on them
rotate tires (every 2nd oil change)
pressure wash engine bay
check seatbelts to make sure they retract, lock, and stay buckeled
ALL LIGHTS (including back up lights, brake signals, turn indicators, hazard, turn signals, headlights, fog lights)

I know i go all out... but better safe then sorry...
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Dont forget all your belts,

I basically do a "complete tune up" every 100,000 km or when i think it needs it...

When i do it i will change:
Spark plugs
Wires (and everything goes with them including cap..)
all filters oil and gas and air
change engine oil, and maybe tranny (depending on who was driving)
check diffs (do that every oil change to make sure no water)
check all belts, and change any that have wear on them
rotate tires (every 2nd oil change)
pressure wash engine bay
check seatbelts to make sure they retract, lock, and stay buckeled
ALL LIGHTS (including back up lights, brake signals, turn indicators, hazard, turn signals, headlights, fog lights)

I know i go all out... but better safe then sorry...
It pays to be thorough!
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:42 PM   #12
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There - you see tune up means different things to different people.

How long is a piece of string?

How fast do you want to go?

Are you tall enough?
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Idk about all the rest of that stuff, cause I really don't do mechanical stuff... But even I can change my air filter..... Save yourself a buck or two with that one at least.... You'll feel such a sense of accomplishment!

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