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Old 04-26-2012, 11:26 AM   #1
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Turn signal stalk replacement

Just a quick set of photos illustrating the hiccups I had replacing my turn signal stalk.
A few months back my dimmer switch stopped dimming my interior lights. My dash lights defaulted to the brightest setting. Being that I don't do a lot of night driving that didn't bother me so much. Then my fog lights started turning on and off when I signaled a lane change. that was weird, but still not enough for me to care. It is a Jeep right?
It was only when I came out to find my fog lights had come on while the car was sitting (No key in the ignition and lights off) that it became a problem.
I don't want any dead battery issues, but I figured out that if I turned the signal stalk to indicate a left turn, they turned off. So I again put the problem off. It's a Jeep right?
When that "fix" stopped working I finally broke down and ordered a new stalk from Rock Auto for my 2004 LJ.

Pretty basic stuff, but here are the steps and stumbling blocks:

Step 1: Remove all the plastic coverings and the "knee panel" from around your steering column. All phillips heads here, you may have to move your wheel up and down to access and remove some panels. If you find yourself forcing things you are doing it wrong. Stop, adjust your wheel, try again.

Step 2: Remove the screws from the top of the stalk mount. The whole thing is shaped like a horseshoe around your column and will come out as a unit.

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Old 04-26-2012, 11:29 AM   #2
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Here is a pic of the nearly identical replacement stalk to show you how it will come apart. Be sure to order the one for fog lights if you have them. It is a bit more expensive and theoretically has more points of failure, but its way easier than rewiring your fogs to a separate switch.

You will need a torx bit for this. I you own a TJ you need a torx set, nuff said.

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Old 04-26-2012, 11:36 AM   #3
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Gently remove the two plugs from the back of the unit, the wiper stalk will also come off as a whole piece with the signal stalk, they are bolted together.

You can see the red locking tabs that hold them on. Depress them and gently wiggle the plugs out. You don't want to break this stuff.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:39 AM   #4
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Disassemble the Wiper stalk from the Signal stalk.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:40 AM   #5
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There is a small plug for the fog light switch. this is the part of the unit that failed. It must have shorted the dimmer switch or something.

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Old 04-26-2012, 11:43 AM   #6
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It probably makes me sound like an idiot but it took me a while to figure out that the new unit did not come with the flasher relay. I had to reuse the one from the backside of the broken unit. Just unplug it and place it in the back of the new one. I only realized this after installing the new stalk and wondering why my turn signals wouldn't work.

My thumb is on the relay, my index finger is pointing where it used to be.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:43 AM   #7
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Nice writeup!

I found the hardest part when I replaced mine was putting the two "collar" parts around the steering wheel back together. After a little trial and error it worked best to install the back right screw about half way in until I could line the collar up properly. Otherwise the whole job was nice and easy.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:49 AM   #8
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The rest is pretty self explanatory. Reattach the wiper stalk to the signal stalk. Re-install the assembly as a whole. Plug the wires back in and reuse the rubber boot from the old unit. Be sure to test that everything works before replacing all your panels.

The main point of posting this was simply to have a reference for diagnosing all the odd problems I experienced with the dash lights not dimming and fog lights randomly coming on.
It was definitely a facepalm moment not realizing the relay had to be switched over to the new unit. I'm glad I didn't break it while angrily ripping it back out before that clicked for me.
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Nice writeup!
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Don't feel so bad Captain Picard, I only knew about transferring the relay after reading about it here first. Live and learn.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:04 PM   #11
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I know this was an old thread but my jeep started doing the same thing with the fog lights. I was thinking the stupid thing was possessed. they just would not go out. I unplugged the lights put the indicator light was still on, so i've got to disconnect the battery till i get a new stalk. This helps me a lot. I'm going to order a new stem today.
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I know this was an old thread but my jeep started doing the same thing with the fog lights. I was thinking the stupid thing was possessed. they just would not go out. I unplugged the lights put the indicator light was still on, so i've got to disconnect the battery till i get a new stalk. This helps me a lot. I'm going to order a new stem today.
Not sure where you unplugged them but you may try pulling the relay under the hood, that is what I have done with no problems.wish I could tell you which relay it is but me and my TJ are in different states right now.
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It probably makes me sound like an idiot but it took me a while to figure out that the new unit did not come with the flasher relay. I had to reuse the one from the backside of the broken unit. Just unplug it and place it in the back of the new one. I only realized this after installing the new stalk and wondering why my turn signals wouldn't work.
I did exactly the same thing
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can't believe i found a thread addressing my same issue. fog lights just come on with a tap of the stalk, so i had to pull the relay. Any suggestions of where to get the replacement parts? I checked a couple of online stores but couldn't figure out what to get or even find anything that said 03 wrangler.
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Got a replacement one on Ebay for about $55 brand new. Not brand name. Shipping was another $20 up to me here in Canada, but probably cheaper for my friends in the USA.

I didn't have any problems with the install - though I had remembered from other threads that the relay has to be re-used.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:35 PM   #16
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I just did this job. Got the stalk at an auto parts store for $70. Awesome write-up. I had no idea where to begin with something like this. Everything works like a charm now. Hardest part was getting those wiring harnesses out. There's no room to really see back there. And definitely slide those red clip locks out before trying to wiggle the harness out.

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