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Old 11-29-2012, 08:50 PM   #1
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Upgrading my rear axle.

I currently have a Dana 35 for my rear and I understand the problems with the weak axle. I will be upgrading to 33's and would like to lock the rear and I know I need to upgrade to a Dana 44. So should I buy a brand new axle from Quad because if I do I would get G2 Axle & Gear D44TJA373D - G2 Axle & Gear Rear 30 Spline Dana 44 Assembly with Disc Brakes & ARB Air Locker for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec

which would be geared to whatever I want or should I buy one used? I figure the price of that new axle is not to bad considering it has an air locker along with the chromoly upgrades. Also how hard would it be to swap them out?

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Old 11-29-2012, 09:09 PM   #2
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I currently have a Dana 35 for my rear and I understand the problems with the weak axle. I will be upgrading to 33's and would like to lock the rear and I know I need to upgrade to a Dana 44. So should I buy a brand new axle from Quad because if I do I would get G2 Axle & Gear D44TJA373D - G2 Axle & Gear Rear 30 Spline Dana 44 Assembly with Disc Brakes & ARB Air Locker for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec

which would be geared to whatever I want or should I buy one used? I figure the price of that new axle is not to bad considering it has an air locker along with the chromoly upgrades. Also how hard would it be to swap them out?
you could always build a ford 8.8

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Old 11-29-2012, 09:40 PM   #3
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It should bolt in, may need a different u-joint.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:44 PM   #4
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you could always build a ford 8.8
I have read about that but I do not know how to weld at all, I can wrench but no welding.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:48 PM   #5
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Would you have to change anything with the brakes? Like the lines or anything since it is wing converted from drum to brake? Just curious because I've been considering this as well
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:12 PM   #6
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I have read about that but I do not know how to weld at all, I can wrench but no welding.
Find someone who can. If you get the artec truss kit it makes for less welding since most of the brackets are with the truss. I got an 8.8 with 4.10 gears and will be putting an e locker, chromo shafts with c clip eliminator, and truss for $1700 should be good for 37s when I'm done for cheaper than the 44 you posted.
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:45 AM   #7
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you can get the 8.8 axle that is alreay set up and ready to bolt in from East Coast Gear a whole lot cheaper than the G2 Dana 44.
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you can get the 8.8 axle that is alreay set up and ready to bolt in from East Coast Gear a whole lot cheaper than the G2 Dana 44.
You can buy two really good 8.8 with lockers from ecgl for the price of that 44
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:27 AM   #9
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The 8.8 is cheaper but not if you buy from ecgs. For a comparable 8.8 to the 44 he posted it's $2973. the 8.8 really only becomes significantly cheaper if you do it yourself. Granted for the price that 8.8 will probably be stronger.
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When I priced mine I was 700 cheaper...than the G2 and the G2 had a 8-12 week wait while it was built. (I wanted limited slip and 4.10's) and was told that almost all the axle's are custom built from G2. Also there is a lot of added hidden cost to the 44 as it was not really a bolt in conversion from the 35. (drive shaft prob's etc) with the money saved I elected for a SYE and new brake componets. and still had money left over which I applied to a 3 inch BDS lift.
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Another option, since you are only planning on running 33" tires (unless you have bigger rubber planned in the future) would be to look into a Super35 kit. I would say for about half the price of the G2 axle, you could have it installed AND regeared. Some frown on it because it's still a D35, but I have heard nothing but good about it, and a lot of guys in my local club run them (or similar). I believe that Superior states that they can hold a 35" tire, locked. This would save you money in the driveshaft area, possible SYE, possible adjustable control arms. For those three things, you could easily be looking at an additional 500-1000 dollars.
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When I priced mine I was 700 cheaper...than the G2 and the G2 had a 8-12 week wait while it was built. (I wanted limited slip and 4.10's) and was told that almost all the axle's are custom built from G2. Also there is a lot of added hidden cost to the 44 as it was not really a bolt in conversion from the 35. (drive shaft prob's etc) with the money saved I elected for a SYE and new brake componets. and still had money left over which I applied to a 3 inch BDS lift.
The 8.8 will have drive shaft problems to if you don't have a sye with CV ds. But just from what I checked earlier for an 8.8 with chromo shafts, locker, used 4.10 gears and new brakes it was almost 3k
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The 8.8 will have drive shaft problems to if you don't have a sye with CV ds. But just from what I checked earlier for an 8.8 with chromo shafts, locker, used 4.10 gears and new brakes it was almost 3k
hmm, I guess since I am local I got a better price.

My quote was 2450 for the axle, regearing the front, remaned limited slip, and labor to install. When I added the SYE it went to 3 and that was with drive shaft, u joints, SYE, new brakes, rotors, and cailpers. I paid a total of 3644 and that was lift and all...
which included any and all upgrades to the brake lines etc for the 3 inch lift.

But you are correct, you need a SYE to eliminate any drive line vibes due to the off set of the pumpkin on the 8.8
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hmm, I guess since I am local I got a better price.

My quote was 2450 for the axle, regearing the front, remaned limited slip, and labor to install. When I added the SYE it went to 3 and that was with drive shaft, u joints, SYE, new brakes, rotors, and cailpers. I paid a total of 3644 and that was lift and all...
which included any and all upgrades to the brake lines etc for the 3 inch lift.

But you are correct, you need a SYE to eliminate any drive line vibes due to the off set of the pumpkin on the 8.8
Did you get chromoly shafts? Also it has a limited slip not a locker. Not saying you didn't get a good deal sounds like you robbed them lol but I'm just saying that for the same thing as that 44 it's going to cost the same unless he builds it himself. Also I'm pretty local to ecgs myself good to see a fellow nc resident.
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yep, chrome moly... I know I asked for the LS due to daily driving... I'll lock it if/when I need to.
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Find someone who can. If you get the artec truss kit it makes for less welding since most of the brackets are with the truss. I got an 8.8 with 4.10 gears and will be putting an e locker, chromo shafts with c clip eliminator, and truss for $1700 should be good for 37s when I'm done for cheaper than the 44 you posted.
Are you planning on running 37's with only 4.10 gears?
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Are you planning on running 37's with only 4.10 gears?
Not anytime soon. I have 33s I was just saying how strong the axle can be. Eventually my plan is 37 but that's after I get a tow rig and the jeep becomes a trailer queen.

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