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Old 12-06-2013, 06:28 PM   #1
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So I just came on lunch from work, went and got into my jeep... Grabbed my keys and went to crank it. It cranked right up then died... Nothing is coming on inside the jeep(gauges,lights, headlights, interior lights, my outlet to charge phone) NOTHING is coming on but it will crank every time I go to crank it but immediately die afterwards. Wtf?? Please help!!

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So I just came on lunch from work, went and got into my jeep... Grabbed my keys and went to crank it. It cranked right up then died... Nothing is coming on inside the jeep(gauges,lights, headlights, interior lights, my outlet to charge phone) NOTHING is coming on but it will crank every time I go to crank it but immediately die afterwards. Wtf?? Please help!!
It also makes a whining noise as it is dying??

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Somebody?? Anybody?? Please help. I can't leave my jeep here
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As soon as it starts give to some gas & see if you can keep it running using the gas pedal. Also, for the few seconds it is running are you getting anything coming on inside, gauges, etc.?
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As soon as it starts give to some gas & see if you can keep it running using the gas pedal. Also, for the few seconds it is running are you getting anything coming on inside, gauges, etc.?
No, nothing.
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No, nothing.
I mean it will crank every time but only stays cranked for a few seconds then whines as it is dying. All my visible fuses are good only fuses that I can't check are the "black" ones or the relays.
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Do you have a "chipped" key? Is your key black or grey?
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Are you saying it starts for a few seconds then dies or are you saying the starter turns the engine without starting but then the starter quits turning the engine even while the key is still in the start position?
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Are you saying it starts for a few seconds then dies or are you saying the starter turns the engine without starting but then the starter quits turning the engine even while the key is still in the start position?
Yes like it cranks and starts for a few seconds then does.
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The question about the grey key refers to the SKIM security feature that will kill the engine if the proper key is not close to the steering wheel area (or a failed key/module) when started in a few seconds but would not explain everything being off inside. Pretty hard to diagnosis without a way to test things.
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Here you must be very specific

Does the engine keep running for a few seconds after you stop cranking the starter or does it only turn while the starter is running

It makes a big diagnostic difference
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Also what year is your TJ
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Also what year is your TJ
It is a 2001 tj
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Here you must be very specific Does the engine keep running for a few seconds after you stop cranking the starter or does it only turn while the starter is running It makes a big diagnostic difference
Ok I'm a little confused there but.. Here is my best description. After I turn the key over and it cranks it stays running for a few seconds then whines and dies. I gave it gas like the other user said and still same thing. When I gave it gas it revved up like normal but then whined as it died.
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The question about the grey key refers to the SKIM security feature that will kill the engine if the proper key is not close to the steering wheel area (or a failed key/module) when started in a few seconds but would not explain everything being off inside. Pretty hard to diagnosis without a way to test things.
I know but I can't really test nothing with it sitting at work. Where I'm still at.
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Is the gas needle reading E? If so and you know you have gas.. it might be the connection that go's to the gas tank located drivers side rear above the rear diff area. has several wire running into it.. one of the green(i think) is the fuel pump wire.. it will pull out.. thus find this... do not pull the wires out. but push them all back in and then try to start it...
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Is the gas needle reading E? If so and you know you have gas.. it might be the connection that go's to the gas tank located drivers side rear above the rear diff area. has several wire running into it.. one of the green(i think) is the fuel pump wire.. it will pull out.. thus find this... do not pull the wires out. but push them all back in and then try to start it...
Well none of my gauges are working at all. Nothing is working so I can't technically say that it is reading E since nothing comes on.
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If the main computer that runs the engine does not get a signal from the crank angle sensor it will only run for a couple seconds and die. The crank angle sensor is a small sensor in the transmission bell near the rear of the engine it reads off the flywheel or flex plate and controls spark timing

Also if your key has gray not black plastic head may have anti theft keys and if the key is dropped and chip inside is damaged the lack of a functional chip will cause the anti theft system to kill the engine after a couple seconds
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It is also possible your ignition switch ( the electronic switch controlled by your key) has failed or the fuse that supplies it has failed.
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Is the gas needle reading E? If so and you know you have gas.. it might be the connection that go's to the gas tank located drivers side rear above the rear diff area. has several wire running into it.. one of the green(i think) is the fuel pump wire.. it will pull out.. thus find this... do not pull the wires out. but push them all back in and then try to start it...
Now a side note. The only thing I really noticed while owning it is the cluster likes to drop down then sometime when I turn my headlights on it kills my radio for a few seconds. Besides that everything always seemed fine. It wasn't doing nothing out of the normal today on the way to work. Except for like I said the cluster(gauges) like to drop to zero quite often and I'm pretty sure the jeep is low on fuel because the gas light was on but went off and showed I had gas :Bankhead: but that shouldn't stop the lights and everything from coming on?? Right??
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Another possibility is a poor body ground so that battery power can reach engine but not car body

What actions preceded this problem
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Another possibility is a poor body ground so that battery power can reach engine but not car body What actions preceded this problem
No actions man.
When I arrived to work everything was fine. Turned the jeep off went inside for my safety meeting and proceeded to work. Went on lunch walked outside went to start jeep it cranked for a few seconds then shinned and died. All lights headlights cluster interior lights nothing comes on.. The only thing I noticed when I popped the hood is the ground wire on my battery is a little loose? Other then that all my fuses were fine except for the ones I couldn't test by the human eye like the relays.
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Another possibility is a poor body ground so that battery power can reach engine but not car body

What actions preceded this problem
After thinking about this problem for a few minutes, I'm with Digger on this, this for sure seems like a ground issue somewhere.
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I will tighten up the ground on my battery when I get off work. Thank y'all very much for the input so far. Keep throwing possibilities at me the more the better!! It will help me eliminate and find the problem!!!
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Now which ground would you be referring to?
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First lets see if it is a ground

1 Tighten and clear battery terminal both of them
2 use a jumper cable from negative battery terminal to one of the bolts with a ground wire on the top of the firewall. With that jumper in place try and see what works. I mean a jumper like used to start a car with a dead battery not some little ass wire with an alagotor clip on each end.
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Did someone shove something in your exhaust pipe?

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If you start it and keep your foot on the gas, can you keep it running?
Are your battery cables dirty or loose? You already mentioned that one of them was loose.
Maybe your battery is slightly discharged or maybe it has been damaged
by loose grounds. It sounds like an electrical problem.

I would clean the battery posts, and make sure they are tight, and make sure the ground on the engine is tight too.

I've seen this problem with people whose battery has died and you jump start them, but if they don't keep the engine slightly revved, the vehicle will die.

So, the question is, can you keep it running, if you keep your front on the gas after starting it?
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If you start it and keep your foot on the gas, can you keep it running? Are your battery cables dirty or loose? You already mentioned that one of them was loose. Maybe your battery is slightly discharged or maybe it has been damaged by loose grounds. It sounds like an electrical problem. I would clean the battery posts, and make sure they are tight, and make sure the ground on the engine is tight too. I've seen this problem with people whose battery has died and you jump start them, but if they don't keep the engine slightly revved, the vehicle will die. So, the question is, can you keep it running, if you keep your front on the gas after starting it?
The answer is no. I tried it earlier. I cranked it put my foot on gas it revved up like normal then just died a few seconds later. x4
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First lets see if it is a ground 1 Tighten and clear battery terminal both of them 2 use a jumper cable from negative battery terminal to one of the bolts with a ground wire on the top of the firewall. With that jumper in place try and see what works. I mean a jumper like used to start a car with a dead battery not some little ass wire with an alagotor clip on each end.
Ok. It's 9:52 PM my time, I get off work at 11:00 PM I will try it immediately wen I get off.

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