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Old 06-10-2007, 06:12 PM   #1
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well hell, I've got no 4low.

Dang. Here it is.... I have 4hi but no low. Sounds like the teeth or whatever are too short and missing locking in? I'm assuming the motor mount lift screwed up the linkage? Is that the word?

Speak slowly, I'm still learning...

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Yes.. mml i gues moved it a bit.... does it feel like 2wd engages closer to where 4hi used to engage or does it still engage in the end of the place?

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Old 06-10-2007, 06:32 PM   #3
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sounds like you need to adjust the linkage, I think the body lift is more of the cause, you raised the shifter (attached to tub)
1" higher from the transfer case (attached to frame).
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Scotty355 the mml pulls the tranny and the tcase forward.. id say the mml is more of the cause

When i installed my 2" bl i had to adjust the linkage just a bit and could still get into 4 lo.. just wasnt all the way in there.. it felt like it poped in there but would shift into neutral.. it felt like it was in 3/4 between the N and the 4Lo
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she also did a body lift recently
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Wait wait. Yes, I did a body lift (1 1/4) and a motor mount lift (1) last weekend. I didn't check the 4low then, but that's got to be when what ever happened happened.

The shifter doesn't sit level with the console anymore and it touches the top of the console before 4low engages. So, I'm assuming 4low is still there, I just need to adjust something. Is that the linkage?
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Scotty355 the mml pulls the tranny and the tcase forward.. id say the mml is more of the cause

When i installed my 2" bl i had to adjust the linkage just a bit and could still get into 4 lo.. just wasnt all the way in there.. it felt like it poped in there but would shift into neutral.. it felt like it was in 3/4 between the N and the 4Lo
If the tranny mount is hooked to the frame how does the transmission and tcase move forward?

Think about it.

Think about it.

I'm going with Scotty on this one. The body lift moves the transfer case lever up which requires a simple adjustment of the linkage. If anything, the MML helps address this problem. But since every jeep is different some require the adjustment.
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Yes it is tiny, I saw a thread within the past week with instuctions on how to adjust it, I'll look and see if I can find it.
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If the tranny mount is hooked to the frame how does the transmission and tcase move forward?

Think about it.

Think about it.
I'm thinking about it.. what are those 4 screws for in the middle of the skid? hhhhmmmmmm?
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Old 06-10-2007, 06:51 PM   #10
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about 8 threads down tiny, named transfer case shifting trouble
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Old 06-10-2007, 06:56 PM   #12
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Thanks Scotty, that's what it looks like since I noticed the lever isn't where it was. Never occured to me that it would be something simple, usually isn't when I'm involved. So you two, you know who you are, can just leave my tires alone.
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That would be my thread!! Thanks for posting this Tiny, got me thinking again!! I have to run out there and try to adjust it real quick. I was just sitting here thinking if there was anything that I needed to do to the jeep that wouldn't cost any $$ and that's it!! We will see if I can get it straightened out?!?!
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Thanks Scotty, that's what it looks like since I noticed the lever isn't where it was. Never occured to me that it would be something simple, usually isn't when I'm involved. So you two, you know who you are, can just leave my tires alone.
tires hehe .. here on this image you can see the bolt in the background.. it's right in the middle of that rod thats in the lower/left center of the screen



again from memory that was 13mm bolt
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:08 PM   #15
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That would be my thread!! Thanks for posting this Tiny, got me thinking again!! I have to run out there and try to adjust it real quick. I was just sitting here thinking if there was anything that I needed to do to the jeep that wouldn't cost any $$ and that's it!! We will see if I can get it straightened out?!?!

take some pictures and post if it works!!

And Triple, put an arrow in there!!! I don't know what you're talking about.
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So you two, you know who you are, can just leave my tires alone.
i'm sure whoever it was, they were just trying to push you to find and figure out the problem.
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Tiny here ya go
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:26 PM   #18
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Thanks. I'm a visual person, I need pictures.
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Thanks. I'm a visual person, I need pictures.
did you install your drop bracket included in your JKS body lift?
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:52 PM   #20
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No, the instructions said I didn't need to because I was doing a motor mount lift... did I screw up?
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no. Not really. There is a fine line between whether or not I install the drop bracket. I installed the JKS MML/BL combo on Anya's jeep and didn't install the drop bracket because it didn't need it.

Just crawl under there and look at all the linkage stuff. You can get a good idea how the shifter works. I like to pull up on the tcase lever as far as it will go. Loosen the adjuster and move the tcase to full 4lo. Then move the handle where I want it and tighten down the adjuster. I can usually hit it the first time.
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if the instructions said not to i gues its good then.. funny how if tiny makes a thread.. we got 20 replies in an hour lol

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if the instructions said not to i gues its good then.. funny how if tiny makes a thread.. we got 20 replies in an hour lol

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I didn't reply to you because your reply didn't make sense. If you didn't catch my original tone I will go back and emphasize more sarcasm.
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^ Funny stuff!!
And tiny, my problem was not the linkages needing to be adjusted, it was the drop bracket wasn't tight. I tightened it up when I installed it but it pulled the threads out and would not tighten back up, that's why it was good but now it's bad again. I somehow fit my fat fingers in there and put a nut on each of the bolts and tightened them up and Perfecto, perfect shifting again!! I tried to adjust the linkages but I could not get the rod that goes through the adjusting block to move either way. that was my problem last time as well. But oh well shifts great now!!
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I gues the "i'm going with scotty" must have thrown me off then I know u've done so many things to rigs thats why i'm wondering

Jherrin ur having the same problem as i was.. the screw needs to be unscrewed a lot not just loosened.. rust and mud may be in the way also.. wd40 did the trick for me as moving it goes
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I gues the "i'm going with scotty" must have thrown me off then I know u've done so many things to rigs thats why i'm wondering
Your comment about the drivetrain shifting forward threw me for a loop. My comment about agreeing with Scotty was directed towards the body lift being the culprit. Not the motor mount lift.
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funny how if tiny makes a thread.. we got 20 replies in an hour lol
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I'm not quite understand MRC, but I'll get it figured out one way or another. Would it help putting the bracket in there now?
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Old 06-10-2007, 08:11 PM   #28
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Triple88a, don't get smart..........Mr. C has done more with Jeeps, than you will in a life time.
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Scotty355 the mml pulls the tranny and the tcase forward.. id say the mml is more of the cause
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Your comment about the drivetrain shifting forward threw me for a loop
what do you mean? When installing a MML the engine moves up so the tranny and the tcase is what moves forward to make up for the height doesn it?

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Triple88a, don't get smart..........Mr. C has done more with Jeeps, than you will in a life time.
I know that and i'm not trying to get smart agains Mr C here.. I'm simply trying to figure out if i'm right or wrong.
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All can be solved by the linkage........

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