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Old 09-13-2010, 08:27 AM   #1
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Wheel shake on from 45-52 mph

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Ok this has been going on for the past 1500 miles and since winter is nearing and I will be driving the jeep more often I've finally deciding I better fix it
Before it get worse or something else goes wrong because of it.

Anyways the jeep has a 2 inch budget boost kit and I'm running 32 inch bfg all terrain tires. Tires have about 3000 miles on them. When I put the lift kit on 3000 miles ago I had an alignment done as well. Within these 1500 miles, I have had a tire balance 3 times and neither of them have fixed the problem.

So what happens is under normal acceleration at about 45 mph the wheel starts shaking back and forth till about 53 mph. It does the same when slowing down. It's no were sever as death wobble. Reason I know this is because when I put the lift kit on I drove around for about 100 miles before I got an alignment. I experienced the death wobble then

I need to replace brake pads and am going to
Change rotors to because when I brake hard at any speed the wheel shakes. So im guessing I have warped rotors. So when I have everything apart what else can I look for to fix this annoying wheel shake problem. Or what does the problem sound like to you guys?

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Old 09-13-2010, 08:32 AM   #2
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It sounds like a wheel problem wether it's a bent wheel or out of balance or a bad tire. They recc you road force balance your wheels and tires, that's what I do then it will tell you if it's out of balance, you got a bad wheel or a bad tire.

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Do a few simple things first. check the trac bar and make sure it is tight. also check your drag link and tie rod ends to make sure they are tight.

Have you tried switch tires front to back to see if that makes any difference?

As for the rotors, if you are getting brake peddle movement when stopping they most likely time for new rotors. Also check to make sure the calipers are in good shape around the rubber boot.
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Alright. Well plan this week is the get new pads and rotors and while I have the wheels off I will move the front wheels straight back and do the same with the back. Also check everthing 4jeePn said.

I will report back once everything is checked and replaced.

Thanks for the fast responses
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Hello everyone

Ok this has been going on for the past 1500 miles and since winter is nearing and I will be driving the jeep more often I've finally deciding I better fix it
Before it get worse or something else goes wrong because of it.

Anyways the jeep has a 2 inch budget boost kit and I'm running 32 inch bfg all terrain tires. Tires have about 3000 miles on them. When I put the lift kit on 3000 miles ago I had an alignment done as well. Within these 1500 miles, I have had a tire balance 3 times and neither of them have fixed the problem.

So what happens is under normal acceleration at about 45 mph the wheel starts shaking back and forth till about 53 mph. It does the same when slowing down. It's no were sever as death wobble. Reason I know this is because when I put the lift kit on I drove around for about 100 miles before I got an alignment. I experienced the death wobble then

I need to replace brake pads and am going to
Change rotors to because when I brake hard at any speed the wheel shakes. So im guessing I have warped rotors. So when I have everything apart what else can I look for to fix this annoying wheel shake problem. Or what does the problem sound like to you guys?

Thanks
Dan
make the jeep roll put your foot on the brake pedal a push easy on it ,if you feel the pedal pulse you have warped rotors did they high speed balance ? if they did you should have weights on both sides of the tire !
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:37 AM   #6
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a dawg38 and 4jeepn also tell you of other problems to check for i also agree with their diagnosis ,bent rim ,tie rods loose tracking bar or a bad tire from the factory funny how it starts at the speed hydro-planeing starts at ! i've had seen a few bad tires come from the factory like this ! check how tight your wheel bearings are also
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:37 PM   #7
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Ok so I did my brake job tonight and everything went well. I looked at everything everyone said to on this post and nothing is loose at all. I still have the wheel shake and I'm lost on what to do next?
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i had the same problem but i know what it was. i had two different brand tires up front making it shake at the same speed. i just got tires and it fixed the problem right away. i haven't got an alignment yet. so, it's something with the tires. maybe unbalanced check the weights to see if they are on the rim or try having them balanced. my 2cents hope you find what the problem is cause i know that feeling and it suxs.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:44 AM   #9
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My jeep's been giving me the same problem. The shop had me put on a heavy duty steering stabilizer, but I'm afraid that's only treating the symptoms, and its probably going to come back in the future. Does it violently try to throw you from the jeep, or is this a less-aggressive wobble?
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:07 PM   #10
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The shop tech who advised you simply install a heavy duty steering stabilizer should be shot for incompetence. Stabilzers are NEVER NEVER the permanent real cure for any problem. Problems are NEVER NEVER caused by a defective or weak steering stabilizer. They are only there to help reduce or eliminate the sympoms when something else is causing a problem. A properly set up vehicle does not need a steering stabilizer to run perfectly without problems. They are only there because problems do happen and they help in those situations.

You simply need to take your Jeep to a competent tire shop to have your wheels perfectly balanced. Not all shops do much more than balance them to the point the shop feels is "good enough" which for a TJ is never good enough.
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Is there a special place u would recommend? They tell me I need wheel weights on the outsides of my wheels because the stick ons fall of and don't stick to my black crager wheels but I hate the way they look?
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Old 09-30-2010, 10:53 PM   #13
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I have regular weights on the inside of my Cragars.... no wobbles what so ever. I was surprised they put them there, but I'm glad they did, they look bad out, but if that's what it takes for you to get a good balance, then do it, and just paint them black... Then they won't be so noticeable. A Q-tip and a can of black gloss spray paint and the cap are all you need to paint them.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:08 AM   #14
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One of your tires could very well be out-of-round. I had the same issue on my last vehicle. This went on for about a year before a competent tech figured it out (3 states later). Luckely I was within tread wear & didn't get prorated.
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With the larger tires it's most likey the steering stabilizer. There are a few other things that could cause a shake but a bad stablizer makes it worse..ALOT worse. If there is a deeper problem the shake will still be there just not so much in the steering wheel. At the least it will keep you on the road till the prob is fixed
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Hi all, First post on this forum. Been a member since 12-2009.

Slackerme, I have a similar setup. Started off just shaking around 40 but would stop after 50 (at least that's what the un-adjusted spedo read) but would stop after slowing down or pushing it faster. Finally, last week it started shaking unbelievably to the point I had to pull over to a complete stop. Scared the crap out of me. Way worse than any death wobble I've experienced. Took it to the shop for bal/allign - Tech showed me a track bar 4-5 turns from tight. This seemed to work so far. Jeep rides smoother than ever any speed.

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With the larger tires it's most likey the steering stabilizer. There are a few other things that could cause a shake but a bad stablizer makes it worse..ALOT worse. If there is a deeper problem the shake will still be there just not so much in the steering wheel. At the least it will keep you on the road till the prob is fixed
Like it is not for Death Wobble, the steering stabilizer is never the cause of or cure for steering wheel shimmy/tire shake either. Shimmy is invariably from a tire that is out of round or out of balance, or a wheel that is not running true.

Steering stabilizers can help mask some symptoms but they are never the cause of or cure for such symptoms.
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When I had mine balanced they asked me where I wanted the weights inside or out.They said on the outside would balance better.Which I have no clue which is better LOL.I just painted the weights to match my rims.Ive always been told the same Jerry on the stabilizers.
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I just had the same problem a month ago... I was checking everything I possibly could on my 97 tj. Finally I started to hear a little sqeek from underneath. Well I changed out my u-joints on my rear driveshaft, and all shakes and everything was gone... Mine was shaking between 20 and 30 mph during acceleration. So check your u-joints!!!!
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did you fix it yet ?

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