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Old 10-20-2008, 03:05 PM   #1
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which tie rod end is this?

i have a bit of a dead spot between 11-1 in my steering and it feels a bit loose. sometimes when taking a corner slowly i have the wheel turned, not moving, but it feels like someone is moving the front tires left and right slightly. hard to explain.

anyway, i looked underneath and noticed one of my tie rod ends looks a bit worn. i went on a few local auto parts web sites to try and track one down but they came back with drivers inner, drivers outer, pass inner, pass outer, etc... i want to say this is drivers side inner, but i don't want to get the wrong part only to have to go back to the store. it's the one connected to the pitman arm...

so is this the drivers inner/outer, or other weird name?? anyone happen to have the correct part number off hand from either advance auto parts or auto zone? if not, no biggie. thanks guys



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Old 10-20-2008, 03:09 PM   #2
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Looks to me like its the drivers outer, also that grease dam looks like it might have a split in it?

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Old 10-20-2008, 03:28 PM   #3
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That pic of the scrunched up rubber boot is of the drag link end which is connected to the Pitman arm. There is no tie rod end showing in that photo. And it is supposed to allow the drag link to be rotated slightly back & forth as there is a ball joint inside that mess.

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Old 10-20-2008, 04:31 PM   #4
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at the parts store just ask for the tie rod end at the pitman arm. everyone calls all those ends tie rod ends. you can't visually see a worn link, unless you can visually see movement. does it have play in it, or do you just think it looks bad?

oh yeah, on yj i believe that end is the same as the short outer tie rod end. the wrong one will be a mile long so you'll know if its right.

that link also is the adjustment for centering your steering wheel, you'll have to readjust when done, try measuring it before to get it back as close as you can to save time adjusting.
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What you really might want to think about is getting a 93-98 Grand Cherokee (V-8) tie rod and end. I got one for $88 and it is much beefier and solid (rather than the stock TJ hollow ones). Some folks have even grabbed them out of junk yards. I went with new. It is a rather vulnerable spot on the Jeeps.

After I re-read the posts (sorry), you might to still think about this mod as you are working on your front end.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:19 PM   #6
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thanks jerry, great picture. another one to add to the files.

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at the parts store just ask for the tie rod end at the pitman arm. everyone calls all those ends tie rod ends.
i was pretty sure it wasn't exactly a tie rod end, but i didn't see a drag bar link listed so i figured that's what it was grouped under. i have bad luck at parts stores (always give me the wrong things) so hopefully they'll get this one right.
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What you really might want to think about is getting a 93-98 Grand Cherokee (V-8) tie rod and end. I got one for $88 and it is much beefier and solid (rather than the stock TJ hollow ones). Some folks have even grabbed them out of junk yards. I went with new. It is a rather vulnerable spot on the Jeeps.

After I re-read the posts (sorry), you might to still think about this mod as you are working on your front end.
Did the same thing last weekend. Pulled mine from a yard, cleaned it up and painted it flat black. Looks great and all the rod ends were fine. Greased up and ready to go and a hell fo a lot stronger than the stock set up. Got mine for $34 which isnt much more than a new rod end. You might want to look into it because you'd have upgraded steering, bolts right up, and its not gonna be much more than just buying a new rod end for the weaker TJ steering.
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that link also is the adjustment for centering your steering wheel, you'll have to readjust when done, try measuring it before to get it back as close as you can to save time adjusting.
now this might sound like a dumb question, but if i replace this will i need to get an alignment? based on jerry's diagram it looks like the drag link only controls when the wheels move left/right and the tie rod does the aligning of the wheels.

my steering wheel is not lined up correctly, so if i can just replace this part and play with the settings until it's lined up without having to take it to an alignment shop that'd be great.
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now this might sound like a dumb question, but if i replace this will i need to get an alignment? based on jerry's diagram it looks like the drag link only controls when the wheels move left/right and the tie rod does the aligning of the wheels.

my steering wheel is not lined up correctly, so if i can just replace this part and play with the settings until it's lined up without having to take it to an alignment shop that'd be great.
Thats what i did! And im not having any problems. it is my understanding that the draglink does not really affect your actual alignment, rather the adjustment on it only comes into play with the steering wheel....am i right guys?
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The drag link is really only used to center the steering wheel. And the steering wheel has to be fairly well centered for the turn signal to self-cancel properly.
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ya, you don't need to get an alignment for that part, you can center the steering wheel by turning that sleeve. alignments are a good idea though, money well spent or do it yourself.

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