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Old 02-08-2014, 08:22 PM   #1
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Which winch would you buy out of these two...

1. Warn M8000-S New

2. Warn 8274 Used

Which one would you buy and why would you choose it over the other? I've been leaning heavily into the 8274 and I kind of want to check my thinking here since they're roughly the same price. Condition and year of 8274 has varied a lot but there are always some for sale around here.

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Old 02-08-2014, 08:51 PM   #2
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Personally I'd run either. They're both great winches, only real downside to the 8274 in my book is it's size. I guess it's speed is really what makes it stand out over the m8000. Either winch would be a good choice, don't think you could go wrong.

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Ive never heard of a "bad" warn winch.
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Ive never heard of a "bad" warn winch.
I'm sure there's a warn for everyone but I've really been researching and reading up on it as I plug away at all the other big ticket stuff on my list and I figured since I had it down to these two I'd get some feedback regarding them in particular.
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I got no experience with warn but
If they are being sold I would buy the new option. Who is going to be like " I love this thing! It's great! Time to sell it!" There's a reason it's on the market.
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Tough decision. Most all the older members of my club all run Warn uprights. Some are over twenty five years old and they have transfered them to newer Jeeps. I've never seen any of their Jeeps have overheating problems on the trail. Replacement parts are available for even the real oldies. The only downside is that they take a special winch plate that is pricy if bought new, and can't be used with all the new winch ready bumpers out there.

Don't be afraid of buying a used Warn if it checks out. I bought a 10 year old XD9000i a few years ago. It has been problem free on my Jeep longer than my new Smitty was before it died.

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I bought a seized up 8274. Rebuilt and installed for less than $800 including 150' of 5/16" Amsteel blue.


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8274 all the way! I love mine I have a custom bumper winch box/plate and it has never let me down in any winching situation. yes it big but it holds 150 feet of line and has a super fast line speed plus the braking system is great. there are many upgrades including just stronger motors. Look up gigglepin winching competitions and you will be sold.
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Old 02-08-2014, 10:20 PM   #9
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I've got Warn right here in my back yard so I'm definitely good with used. There are plenty of 8274's around though the different years and their updated features I'm not familiar with. I can get 8274's from $3-500 for used and up to $7-800 rebuilt. There's rigs around here wasting away in fields with good 8274's still on 'em. lol. If I could drop $1800+ on a new 8274 I would but I need to keep my budget around $800 (not including mount) which led me to the two I listed.

If they were both new at the same price I'd go with the 8274 and not even hesitate, so I guess I'm back to where I had my answer all along. I actually missed a brand new in box 8274 for $500 here a few weeks back. It was on CL for less than two hours on a Sunday and it was sold. Thanks again for all the feedback!
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I may be wrong, but is the M8000 made in China --all or part?
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I got one used, tore it apart, media blasted the whole thing and had it powder coated and epoxy painted. That was all fairly cheap. Then I went and bought a few other things like the brake kit and bearings. Total investment was way under 800 dollars minus the initial payment for the winch. I mounted my solenoids under my hood and made in cab winch controls where my ash tray should go. The normal outer remote hook up is moved off to the side of my brush guard. The two things I wish I could of done were synthetic cable and the DC contractor up grade. I will go to the DC contractor as soon as I have a solenoid fail.
Here is a link to a write up on that: Warn Winch Solenoid Upgrade - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum
In no shape or form would I ever need the double motor set up but my gosh would that be bad ass!
There is an aluminum solenoid housing that sell on Ebay.
I have been thinking about getting one and mounting it to the front because I really do like the look of the Big W on the front.
Another think I have been looking into(leisurely I might add) is without the solenoids up on the backing plate connected to the motor the actually is room and the ability to but an industrial heat sink on the motor. Even if it doesn't work it still might look pretty cool. In theory it seems as if it would work a small bit, even though I don't think that it is entirely needed.
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Oh sorry I forgot, I now have rebuilt 6 including mine so if you get into this project just let me know if you run into a problem.
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I may be wrong, but is the M8000 made in China --all or part?
The VR8000 is, the M8000 is not.
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The 8274 is legendary. If you don't mind the size and possible maintenance depending on its condition, and it will get used, awesome. If it's bumper dressing and you might get stuck in a mud puddle, it's overkill.
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Oh sorry I forgot, I now have rebuilt 6 including mine so if you get into this project just let me know if you run into a problem.
Sweet link! Thanks a lot, I appreciate the offer of help.
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No problem. You can also look it up on YouTube. There are rebuild videos and up grade videos there. Also one guy actually puts a real bearing in the non motor side of the housing.
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Here are some pictures I don't have my cable on right now because I am putting on a thimble.
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I got no experience with warn but If they are being sold I would buy the new option. Who is going to be like " I love this thing! It's great! Time to sell it!" There's a reason it's on the market.
Buying a used warn is nothing to be afraid of. People sell things for all sorts of reasons, there is nothing saying the winch is bad. I bought my used xd9000 for $400. It is very well used, about 10 years old IIRC, and still works great. I almost had a like new 9.5TI for $400, but the guy sold it to someone else before I had a chance to pick it up. He simply needed some cash fast.

Plus the 8274 was first introduced around the 70s I believe, yet you can still get whatever parts you need for a rebuild. Checkout the classifieds on Pirate sometime, they have warns on there for sale all the time.
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8274= 8k lbs, 2 way, first introduced in '74.
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I'm digging the 8274 love fest.

I just bought a working 8274 with steel cable for $450. Going to mount it on my trailer. The next one I find will go on my JKU.
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I got the rebuilt 8274. It's a '77 model so not the motor from the '80's that I was hoping for, but he said the motor looked mostly unused. Anyhow, it's solid and has a rebuilt brake, new parts and thoroughly serviced. New 5/16 cable, new warn hook, new switch on old control, new 2 gauge leads and fresh paint/stickers. Now I need to order a plate and get my battery setup squared away. It's all coming together nicely though. Thanks for the input folks, even though I kinda already had my mind made up.



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That looks to be in great shape. Congrats, love it.
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Wow. Come time for a winch i might have to do this. Just looked the 8274 up on amazon amd its between 1800-2300 new. Gosh. Ive seem these on craigslist for around 400-1000. Hmmmmmm
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Yeah, the guy who rebuilt it worked here at Warn for 39 years or some such in the service dept. I could have bought a cheaper one and rebuilt it myself, but it would have been really close to the same cost in the end. There is always at least 10 8274's for sale around here at any given point. They generally average $500.

There was one that was new in box, never installed for $500 once. It was sold in less than two hours and I just missed it.
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Very nice. Looks brand new. Score!
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I have the M8000 and really like it. If you're ok with the size of the 8274 at the same price that might be your answer. I can't say one is better, but I like the size of the M8000 and have no complaints.
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A group of us did recovery work for EROCC, UROC, WEROCK and XRRA in Jellico and I can honestly say the 8274 was the most revered winch in our discussions. You did well.
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A group of us did recovery work for EROCC, UROC, WEROCK and XRRA in Jellico and I can honestly say the 8274 was the most revered winch in our discussions. You did well.
I hope to use it often, though I don't have my rig fully set up yet. I'm still chasing down neglected stuff and getting it all sorted, but I'm so freaking close. I ordered the winch plate tonight. I should be wheeling and fishing deep in the woods by the time the summer steelhead run is in full swing here! I'm hoping to find some chill Oregon jeepers to run with at the OHV park @Brown's Camp this summer too.
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Update: this came on the big brown truck today! Can I wire to the side terminals directly on the Diehard Platinum? My rig still has the OEM Mopar battery in it and I'm not even going to trust it for a second. My little sidetrack into winch land has cost a bit more than my original budget.



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