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Old 02-05-2013, 12:16 PM   #1
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Hi everyone!!!
I am new to this site and the whole off-roading thing. I bought my Jeep in May. Its a 2005 Wrangler Sport & I love it! Now I understand the phrase theres nothing like a JEEP!!! I do have a few questions for you more experienced Jeepers out there if you dont mind helping me out! Where do you find is the best place to buy parts???? I have a 4in lift and its on thick 33s and when I reach speeds of abouve 35 the steering wheel shakes terribly. My jeep went from being called a little monster to wiggles! It dose have a badddd wiggle as my firends have put it. What can I do to correct this?? It is pretty annoying!!! Also I learned about this awesome thing called TOPLESS DAY! How many of you have done this? && I live on Long Island where do you recomomned I go to partake in the event??? Well I can not wait to hear back from you other jeep lovers!!! Thanks -Beth

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Old 02-05-2013, 12:22 PM   #2
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welcome to the club. Jeep = just empty every pocket.

Wheel balance or the front end isn't aligned right from the lift.
I run 35's with 5.5 lift and do not have any problems.

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Old 02-05-2013, 12:34 PM   #3
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I have a 2005 Wrangler X "Willys Edition" and it sits on 33s. I had the same thing happen to mine with the second set of tires. I had them balanced several times just to find out that two out of the four tires were bad. I went back to the same brand tires that I had the first time cause have had good luck with that company "Nitto". What brand & type of tires do you have on your Jeep?
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:45 PM   #4
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Sounds like what could become the famous "death wobble". You need to find what is causing it before it becomes worse and destroys other parts, or causes an accident.

A quick search or Google will explain it and probably scare you a little.

My problems was always my old steel wheels becoming out of balance after wheeling. And the front track bar becoming loose at the frame mount.

A set of aluminum wheels cured my constant wheel bending balance issues. I regularly get under the Jeep and inspect bushings and re-torque everything.

I have not had a wobble in years.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:45 PM   #5
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Your issue is well known to jeep owners and its called "death wobble", and occurs at those speeds especially with a lift.

Here are some troubleshooting ideas:
1. Proper air and balancing of your tires.
2. Alignment
3. If ur jeep doesn't have one, I'd highly recommend a steering stabilizer, possibly a dual style one.
4. Your track bar bushings could also be warn out

Good luck

What brand tires r u running, because cheapo tires will get out of balance easy and cause ur wobble
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:52 PM   #6
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Yeah first I'd check air and balance tires. Possibly a new steering stabilizer would be my my next choice. After that I'd be on here asking the same question.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:10 PM   #7
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Steering stabilizer just masks the problem. Def do not need double ss. Read the sticky about death wobble, then go through the checklist. Likely something is loose (trackbar) or worn (tie rods) , or unbalanced tires, etc. go through the checklist before slapping on parts.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:23 PM   #8
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Good news is it probably isn't death wobble, or else you would be calling it something a bit more terrifying then "wiggles".

I'd start by making sure your tires are properly balanced and aligned. If balance and alignment check out, start checking for any movement underneath: crawl under and start pulling and pushing on various steering components. If there is any movement at all, that needs to be corrected.

Most likely, the problem will be fixed with a balance or alignment. If something was loose underneath the shaking would be pretty violent and you'd probably have a hard time getting anyone to ride with you again...
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:39 PM   #9
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Start with getting the tires blanced and alignment checked. Find a good local 4x4 shop that deals with lifted rigs and oversize tires to do the balancing. They will be able to also oversee other issues if it's lift related.
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Thnak you all so much!! I will def start with a balance and alignment... Hope that works but i really doubt it. If it doesnt i will be back asking more questions!!!!! Thanks everyone!!!
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An easy trick to tell if something is loose under there is the steering wheel trick.

Get a friend to help you. One turns the steering wheel gently back and forth while the other lies under the front of the Jeep and looks for unnecessary movement.

I saw my problem right away with this method.
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:55 PM   #12
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TJ Dave I am def going to do this maybe save me money for a balance and alignment!!!!
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:03 PM   #13
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TJ Dave I am def going to do this maybe save me money for a balance and alignment!!!!

Good for you. Look at the track bar mounts and the control arm mounts when you do it. Alignment on a TJ is nothing more than a simple toe in adjustment. If your lift has adjustable control arms, caster can be adjusted, but most alignment shops will not go there. Don't let them rip you off.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:56 AM   #14
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Just a suggestion...if your tires are not greatly worn....you MIGHT be able find a tire shop that would "sell you" a "Road Hazard Warranty". I found out about these when I first got my TJ back in '04. It Should be less than $100. It includes FREE rotation and balancing of tires, and usually a free repair for flats, and a prorated replacement of tires if unable to repair. Might be a good investment.....

We added this to our '12 JK on the stock tires, and to the '13 Chrysler 300....I never pay for rotations!!
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It is not death wobble.

With regards to alignment, there is only one thing that can be adjusted and that is the toe and it is easy to do yourself so don't pay for an alignment. TJ Toe-in Alignment - 1
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:58 PM   #16
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Just a suggestion...if your tires are not greatly worn....you MIGHT be able find a tire shop that would "sell you" a "Road Hazard Warranty". I found out about these when I first got my TJ back in '04. It Should be less than $100. It includes FREE rotation and balancing of tires, and usually a free repair for flats, and a prorated replacement of tires if unable to repair. Might be a good investment.....

We added this to our '12 JK on the stock tires, and to the '13 Chrysler 300....I never pay for rotations!!
Yup discount tire did that for me, even though tires were on the Jeep from PO. Considering the price of 33" bfgs i thought it was a good deal.

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