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Old 03-18-2010, 06:57 AM   #1
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Winch Plate/Tow Hook Bolts Seized

Well yesterday received my new 8k winch so went out to start removing the old one, since the rust took it's toll on it.

While trying to remove the (4) winch plate / tow hook bolts, they were barely, if not at all moving and that's even with 2 days of PB Blaster.

Well one of they started creaking like it was moving.... wrong!!! end up snapping a grade 8 bolt.. ugggg

Tonight I'm gonna try some heat from the torch to see if that helps with the remaining 3.

Trying to figure out what to do for the broken one. Will look into the bolt extractor, but with it being a grade 8, it's gonna be near impossible to drill out.

If anyone has some other idea, it's greatly appreciate.

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Old 03-18-2010, 07:08 AM   #2
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Not sure what you are using on them but if you go to sears they have something that I think is called a manual impact hammer that should help quite a bit. Its semi cheap as well...around $25. You put a socket on it and every time you hit it with a hammer it turns the bolt 20 degrees. That way you are getting both the turning and the downward pressure that may help knock it free from the rust.

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Old 03-18-2010, 07:31 AM   #3
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Yea tried that as well as the impact gun too.
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well keep us posted on your progress because i need to do this to mine.do the front bolts have a nut on them?cant see how to get a wrench on them.damn torx bolts.
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They got into the front frame/tube of the bumper. I think the rear bolt closest to grill has a nut weld, but not able to reach it.

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Old 03-18-2010, 11:13 AM   #6
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Your previously stated plans of heating the bolt with a torch is exactly the right next step.
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:31 AM   #7
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Any thoughts on removing the broken Grade 8 bolt....

the only thing I can think of, once I can remove the top broken part is see where it snapped and if a nut/bolt can be welded to it.

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Old 03-18-2010, 11:56 AM   #8
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I hear ya on this problem...when I replaced my bumper, I managed to get all my bolts out, but all the exposed threads on the bolts were literally eaten away. It looked like they'd been dipped in a bowl of acid. Good luck removing them!

And sorry...can't offer much help on this problem...
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:08 PM   #9
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the welded nuts broke loose and bolt spins freely...
How the f.... am I supposed to remove them now

I can't even remove the bumper to replace the whole dam thing is I wanted to
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the welded nuts broke loose and bolt spins freely...
How the f.... am I supposed to remove them now

I can't even remove the bumper to replace the whole dam thing is I wanted to
Welded nuts broke loose = grind or cut the head off the bolts. You can then weld nuts back in after the bumper is off.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:50 PM   #11
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If all else fails, torch them out...
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:35 PM   #12
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Yep, cutting wheel.
I was able to remove the bolts on the underside of the bumper, then just cut the heads off and removed after pulling bumper off
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Yay! Good job, what a PITA. I'm betting you apply a little antisieze to those bolts the next time.
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I am just going to say you're a wheeler and know what to do. If you bring your jeep out the morning of good friday to the campsite and say hey we need to do some quick work I am going to leave you there and take my tools You better get everything done before hand and even aired down please lol!

Just to add injury to insult----- I put another tow hook on the front of the jeep and just a little baby 3/8" ratchet and the torxs bit got my top two bolts out with no effort at all
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i had the same thing happen to me!! i had to drill them out with a 1/2 inch bit (steel drilling type) wasnt to bad!! then had to weld in a new nut plate in 4 holes. i tried tons and tons of differ type screw outs and just snapped them all .... so good luck
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You might try KanoLabs.com some Kroil for your next time. I've used it with great results but heat is a must for the really bad ones.
Works great when working/cleaning guns too.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:15 AM   #17
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Yea PITA, thank gawd for air tools, I can't wait to get my new air compressor for the garage. Yea 5 yrs wheeling in mud, water and living in the great salt belt sucks.

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