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Old 01-17-2013, 03:12 PM   #1
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Windshield Torx bolts help.

Is there a trick to getting the windshield Torx bolts off? I'm on the first and it won't even budge.

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Old 01-17-2013, 03:17 PM   #2
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I had this problem too. Be careful not to strip it cus then you're screwed. I hit em with a ton of pb blaster and broke a couple torx bits gettin em off.

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Old 01-17-2013, 03:19 PM   #3
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Spray them with some PB blaster and let it soak in for a while then maybe they'll break loose. Lots of people end up having to drill them out.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:20 PM   #4
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Just did this last night to my daughters YJ to put new top brackets on. Hit them with heat, get a torch and warm them up to HOT and they will back right out without breaking any bits. However, it will mess up your paint, but hers is a white (now blue) and we just waited till it cooled and cleaned the soot off and repainted. Though we did use antisieze on the bolts before we put them back so maybe it would be easier next time.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:45 PM   #5
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I put a torx bit on mine after spraying pb blaster and tapped the bit with a hammer to try to help to knock some rust and paint loose. Seemed to help but I still twisted one torx bit off and mangled the other one...but the job got done.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:09 PM   #6
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I used heat......propane torch for only about 30 seconds....didnt bother the paint one bit. You need just enough to heat up the thread lock the factory put on.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:10 PM   #7
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They're kicking my ass. I would imagine the 30 degree weather isn't helping!
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:35 PM   #8
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Those bolts are held in with Locktite, heat applied to the bolt itself is the way to break them free without worrying about stripping the torx-head out.

I would get a scrap torx bit and hold it into the bolt's torx opening while heating the torx bit with a propane or other type of torch. The heat will work its way into the bolt itself and soften the Locktite's grip on the threads. Make sure it gets HOT.

Using brute force on them is very like to end up with a stripped out bolt head. I learned how well heat works after tack-welding a bolt onto one of my stripped out bolt heads. The heat from welding loosened the Locktite's grip on the bolt enough that it came right out with very little force required. Don't try to catch the still hot bolt in your hand when it comes out.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:38 PM   #9
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We used an air hammer on mine, along with a collar that you can put a wrench on, and twist with your hand to "help" along. My biggest fear was shattering my windshield with the vibration....but it worked.
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We used an air hammer on mine, along with a collar that you can put a wrench on, and twist with your hand to "help" along. My biggest fear was shattering my windshield with the vibration....but it worked.
I did that once. The Craftsman torx-bit snapped & the broken bit danced across my door's paint before I could release the trigger on my impact wrench.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:08 PM   #11
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We used an air hammer on mine, along with a collar that you can put a wrench on, and twist with your hand to "help" along. My biggest fear was shattering my windshield with the vibration....but it worked.
I call it a shake-n-break. I used it to remove the the screws that held on brake drums and brake rotors on vehicles. I would also be worried about vibrating the windshield too.

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Old 01-17-2013, 05:35 PM   #12
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Try using a breakover handle for leverage with the torx socket. Mine came out with no problems but then again, PO took good care of it and kept it a street queen. My jeep probably never seen any sort of offroading with the PO.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:11 PM   #13
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I've used a hand impact (the type you hit with a hammer) with great success over many years. We have to use them on motorcycles or the bolt heads will always strip. They're cheap and come in handy more than once.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:32 PM   #14
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I took all of mine out to begin an install of a rack. Used a 1/2" air impact wrench and they came right out.
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Heat from a small propane torch or even a heat gun held on the torx adapter as described above eliminates the need for impact drivers, breaker-bars, impact wrenches, air tools, etc. and makes their removal easy-peasy.
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I took it to my mechanic (he offered to do it free of charge for me). After about ten minutes, they came out and told me they were locked in way too tight and were worried about stripping the bolts or breaking bits.

I'll talk to him about the heating suggestion and see what he thinks. I'm bummed because I thought getting the windshield mounts on would be the easiest part of the windshield lights installation!

And sorry for the repeat topic: it was a combination of a knee-jerk reaction to the frustration in the garage and the all-too-easy access to the forum on my iPhone. I Googled the topic on my laptop later and found a huge list of topics started by people having the same problem.
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I'll talk to him about the heating suggestion and see what he thinks.
Heat is even what Locktite says is needed to loosen the type of Locktite used on those bolts, why do you need to ask some mechanic what he thinks about it? Since he didn't already suggest heat to loosen the Locktite that is holding them tight, I'd be wary of his general knowledge.
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Heat is even what Locktite says is needed to loosen the type of Locktite used on those bolts, why do you need to ask some mechanic what he thinks about it? Since he didn't already suggest heat to loosen the Locktite that is holding them tight, I'd be wary of his general knowledge.
That was an unnecessary swipe at a good guy and despite my better judgement, I'm going to respond.

He's not "some mechanic." He's the guy that's done stellar work for me so far. He's got direct access to my Jeep. You do not.

He didn't "suggest" anything because I didn't ask. He had already squeezed me in for a quick appointment near the end of his day. This is a facility that takes appointments that end up being at least two days out. I didn't want to burn more of his time about a handful of bolts when he wasn't even charging me to try pulling them off to begin with.

I understand you have a wealth of knowledge, but don't knock my mechanic when the information you're getting is from a guy on a forum who's trying to learn about his TJ.
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That was an unnecessary swipe at a good guy and despite my better judgement, I'm going to respond.

He's not "some mechanic." He's the guy that's done stellar work for me so far. He's got direct access to my Jeep. You do not.

He didn't "suggest" anything because I didn't ask. He had already squeezed me in for a quick appointment near the end of his day. This is a facility that takes appointments that end up being at least two days out. I didn't want to burn more of his time about a handful of bolts when he wasn't even charging me to try pulling them off to begin with.

I understand you have a wealth of knowledge, but don't knock my mechanic when the information you're getting is from a guy on a forum who's trying to learn about his TJ.
Well said ... I agree with you 1,000,000,000,000 %. It seems lately that it's either HIS way, or it's WRONG. Sorry Jerry, but that's just the cold hard truth.
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Put a lot of weight against an impact with a high quality bit and if it spin's just drill it out. The problem getting them out is not Locktite, it's the tapered bolt fused to the mating component. After I drilled the head off, they came out with very little effort. Quick word of advice if you need to drill them out. Start off with a pilot hole and go deeper than the head, so you can get an extractor in after the head comes off. Follow up the pilot hole with a countersink, otherwise you will run the risk of breaking the larger bit on the spine. It is a bit of a pain, but not as bad as you may think.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:32 PM   #21
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I was worried that it might come down to destroying the bolts to get them out. I feel a little bit better about it, though, because someone suggested daveysjeeps.com in another thread while I was doing more research.

Turns out they've got a mess of extra parts, and that includes windshield Torx bolts. I've already traded a couple emails with them. I'd like to keep the bolts painted in factory color and just cover up what's been chipped off with the Torx bit. I think the yellow bolt on black windshield mount would actually look pretty cool. In fact, I might pick up yellow hood Torx bolts from them for the black hinges I put on a few months ago.

These bolts have been a pain in the ass, but I guess the silver lining is that they've led me to more ideas.

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