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Old 01-04-2014, 05:22 PM   #61
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Do you know if there is a pulley other than kilby. His website is still up I wonder if u can still order from him

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As said, Kilby was pretty much out of the OBA business the last time I heard of anyone trying to order from him. Maybe he has some minor parts like that left over that he might respond to, it couldn't hurt to try. His OBA number was 818-848-2900 but he has gone 100% into aircraft parts, as you will notice if you call that number which he kept. That aircraft parts company still belongs to Brad the last I knew and that's about the only way I now how to get in touch with him.

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I used a short v-belt for my York but I was able to easily source the required dual-pulley for the alternator from Brad Kilby. That dual alternator pulley he used to sell made it a relatively painless job. Since Brad went out of business I dunno how you'd figure out where he got his dual alternator pulleys from.

It might be easier to convert the York to a serpentine belt pulley... though I'm not even sure where to get those now either. Too bad Brad had to go out of business, he sure made things a lot easier.
Brad went out of business again? I wonder if thats why his TJ on 40s is on CL for 60k
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Brad went out of business again? I wonder if thats why his TJ on 40s is on CL for 60k
So far as I know, yes. He brought it back once but I don't think it lasted. The last time I saw Brad he had 1-2 huge monstrous JKs so it wouldn't surprise me if he is selling "one of" his previous TJs. He's had more huge well built-Jeeps than anyone I've ever known.
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If I can dig out my kilby bracket ill get some measurements. It's for the late model tj's with the a/c on the lower right and alt on the left.
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Jerry's 4th link to kits at Collins brothers has fittings, bracket like mine brace bracket pulley belt and bolts for 160 as you can see from the photo the bracket crosse toon is just t shaped

They are still n business so for early year tj with factory ac on top that looks pretty good no good for later years with alt on top left

But they look to still have pulleys in kits so they might also have a steps rate one

If making bracket look closely at their pic on that link Jerry posted
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Airboss Their store seems to be working. OP check out their brackets and their pulleys under accessories. This is where i purchased my combo pulley nd built my own bracket. I think they are still selling things, its a good idea to give them a call.
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Airboss Their store seems to be working. OP check out their brackets and their pulleys under accessories. This is where i purchased my combo pulley nd built my own bracket. I think they are still selling things, its a good idea to give them a call.
Hopefully but the last time I heard, at least a couple people inquired via emails & never heard back. It'd be great if it's active again but I'm not holding my breath. Brad offered me a steep discount at least a year ago for a bracket kit as a "going out of business" offer but I just couldn't do it at the time.
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I looked on his website but wasn't sure which pulley I needed can someone help me. I can't get a measurement or look at my belt to see the # of ribs since it 4 deg out.

When your talking about late model TJ's is an 01 in that category
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Just look at where accessories are bolted on


Is the top belt driven item on the right
( passenger side here in US) an alternator or the factory ac compressor

Old style like my 98 has ac compressor on top

Newer style like my wife's 04 have alternator on top

In one of the links Jerry posted a guy used a stock gm pulley and all he needed was a proper ID and OD center sleeve as center hole was too big plus adding a 4 bolt circle as the gm pulley had a three bolt on circle pattern

Apparently the pulley already had the right rear with proper grove count and a usable v front pulley from the factory
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I saw that but forgot about that I might see if I can find one and have a local machine shop fix it.

What year did they change the mounting places of the alternator and factory ac
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This is the only pic I have of my Kilby bracket on my 05 with A/C. Had to remove the alt. and remount it to the underside of the bracket. Also as said before run a line to the tank and then to your quick connect it will help cool the air. I had my original hose blow out and I replaced it with a S.S. flex hose that runs from the York to my manifold on the drivers side.

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Do you know if there is a pulley other than kilby. His website is still up I wonder if u can still order from him
I was unable to find anyone else that sells the dual pulley I ended up fabing a pulley welded to the water pump pulley to run my york. Ill try to get some pics this afternoon.
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Airboss Their store seems to be working. OP check out their brackets and their pulleys under accessories. This is where i purchased my combo pulley nd built my own bracket. I think they are still selling things, its a good idea to give them a call.
Store doesn't work. When u try to order it won't let u
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A machine shop can convert the dual v belt clutch into a 6 groove serpentine belt pulley as well if you decide to go that route.
There are numerous vehicles that have stock York a/c compressors as well as dealer installed York compressors. Certain dealer installed York were available on 80's mustangs with serpentine clutches and you can still order the serpentine clutches and another source are semi truck repair shops since they use yorks in many of the big trucks.
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So went out and looked at where I would mount it. I'm thinking on the passenger fender. Is there a reason that I shouldn't mount it there? (Could it bend the fender)

Then attach a dual pulley to my alternator and run a v belt to the York. I might have to turn the air box like stu did for his install or I might go with a windstar cowl.
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Has to be bolted to the engine.
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Ok is there a reason
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Because the engine flops around independently of the body (exaggerated for emphasis). The belt won't stay in place. At best, it will slip without a tensioner.
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Oh that makes sense I didn't think of that now I'll have to look at moving the alternator.

Can I use the motor mounts or only the engine
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Keep it away from the frame/motor mounts as well. The frame, body and engine all rattle and move independently of each other.

The York must be bolted to the engine without any rubber bushings or isolators between the two. Treat it the same way as any other pulley driven engine accessary.
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Ok thank you no I'll have to rethink my mounting idea
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Did you see if the collins brother store link was still good the had a kit with bracket and pulley and fittings under 200 and they are still in business

Is was one of the links that Jerry posted

Is your ac or alt on top passenger side

If it is ac the mount bracket is simple

But you gotta loose air box and go with aftermarket air filter and tube to make room for the York
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I saw the link but it only had kits up to a 98 Tj's and mines an 01 so I wasn't sure if I could use one of their brackets or not. My alternator is on the top passenger side
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Did you see if the collins brother store link was still good the had a kit with bracket and pulley and fittings under 200 and they are still in business

Is was one of the links that Jerry posted

Is your ac or alt on top passenger side

If it is ac the mount bracket is simple

But you gotta loose air box and go with aftermarket air filter and tube to make room for the York
Wish I would have seen that when I was doing my install would have made life much easier
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I saw the link but it only had kits up to a 98 Tj's and mines an 01 so I wasn't sure if I could use one of their brackets or not. My alternator is on the top passenger side
No u need the newer style mount for ur engine. Jeep changed the mounting locations on the 4.0 in mid 99 I think. So u need a different bracket like what was posted in a pic above
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This is the only pic I have of my Kilby bracket on my 05 with A/C. Had to remove the alt. and remount it to the underside of the bracket. Also as said before run a line to the tank and then to your quick connect it will help cool the air. I had my original hose blow out and I replaced it with a S.S. flex hose that runs from the York to my manifold on the drivers side.
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I saw the link but it only had kits up to a 98 Tj's and mines an 01 so I wasn't sure if I could use one of their brackets or not. My alternator is on the top passenger side
That is the style mount u need
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Ok thank you I'll probably fab one up once it warms up here I'll probably use a similar design as the one here.

http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/york_mounting.html

Darn just realized that that was for a YJ I'll probably think of something like the kilby bracket

Can it be done without moving the alternator or will I have to move it
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Oh that makes sense I didn't think of that now I'll have to look at moving the alternator.

Can I use the motor mounts or only the engine
Ill get you some pics in 10min of my mount and location that I custom made
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So my custom bracket looks about the same as the kilby bracket in respect to where its bolted onto the engine. However my bracket does not look as clean as the kilby one.

You can see in the bottom picture that the top is bolted onto the engine block in two places, and there is an armo coming from the bottom of the bracket bolting onto the engine at a lower spot for support. Basically a plate with a 90 degree bend and a strip bended and welded to the right mounting location. The bolting places used to be where the alternator and the idler pulley went.

We ditched the idler pulley and figure a new way of tightening the belt. If you look at the first picture you will notice a long bolt coming off the left side of the picture, attached to the alternator, going up to the bracket. What that does is it swings the alternator pulley farther away from the engine block as you tighten the bolt, thus making the belt tighter. This was a simple way of dealing with the belt tightness without going into a fab mess.

In the last picture you can see how tight everything is. A/C hoses flying everywhere nearly touching the clutch. The Fan is actually less then an inch away from touching the york's clutch. Ive been running this setup with the custom bracket for almost a year and I have had no problems with it.






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