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Old 03-07-2013, 07:00 PM   #1
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Zj steering swap

Hey guys I bent my stock steering linkage and was wondering if its worth doing the zj swap and how much it would cost and what do I need or should I just buy an aftermarket set up?

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Old 03-07-2013, 07:39 PM   #2
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Yes, it's worth it. You wouldn't have bent it in the first place if had the ZJ tie rod.
I did mine last fall, and it was right around $120 with shipping from Rock Auto. You need the LH inner, LH outer, and the adjusting sleeve.

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Old 03-07-2013, 08:14 PM   #3
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Absolutely worth it and not much more than it would cost you to do a stock swap. ZJ tie rod is thicker and solid. over the thinner hollow TJ rod. You'll need three parts. Tie rod, tie rod end, and adjusting sleeve. I used all Moog parts following Stu's write up.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:37 PM   #4
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What year do I need?
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What year do I need?
98 works.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:45 PM   #6
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Also V8 too
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Read this. It helped me.
ZJ Tie Rod Conversion
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:51 PM   #8
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Can I use the the tj drag link?
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Can I use the the tj drag link?
Yes.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:28 AM   #10
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Thanks guy been really helpful.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:51 AM   #11
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The ZJ setup isn't bad for the money, and it's definitely an improvement over stock, but just keep in mind it isn't the strongest setup either. I've seen it bend twice now (two different vehicles), and this last time in particular I was surprised that it bent; we were in a rock garden, but it wasn't anything particularly tough.

It's not a bad setup, but it still bends fairly easy if you play in the rocks. Just a heads up.
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Most local NAPA stores have it in stock . I did mine for less than a hundred bucks . I get a pretty good discount but it is at least a local guy you are helping to support in most cases.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:13 PM   #13
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Get the ZJ tie rod from the V8 from a junk yard and just buy the tie rod ends new
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Get the ZJ tie rod from the V8 from a junk yard and just buy the tie rod ends new
The "tie rod" is actually the LH inner tie rod end, so it has a spherical joint. Junkyard would be OK if you can find one that isn't worn out. Personally I'd rather just install new parts.
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For the price just buy new and you know what you have . A junk yard may just possibly sell you junk ???
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For the price just buy new and you know what you have . A junk yard may just possibly sell you junk ???
That's my opinion. I don't buy used wear items.
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Will the zj drag link work?
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Will the zj drag link work?
I believe they are the same as the TJ.
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I believe they are the same as the TJ.
Trying to find out because I'm looking to replace everything tommorrow.
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Trying to find out because I'm looking to replace everything tommorrow.
I just did a quick search on Advance Auto (where I ordered my ZJ tie rod) and searched for a drag link for both a v8 '98 ZJ and a '00 TJ and both returned the same part for both. The TJ drag link is solid and I think the only worthwhile upgrade is a Currie.
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I just did a quick search on Advance Auto (where I ordered my ZJ tie rod) and searched for a drag link for both a v8 '98 ZJ and a '00 TJ and both returned the same part for both. The TJ drag link is solid and I think the only worthwhile upgrade is a Currie.
Thanks bud for the info appreciate it.
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No problem. It's funny because I shot a video (tried to at least) of the install I did for youtube. My son usually does my camera work but he wasn't home so I tried on my own. The footage was so bad I never posted it. Half the stuff was too dark, a quarter of it was out of focus, and the rest was out of frame. I even did an alignment which was all out of frame. The cool thing about it was I even filmed some of my workarounds like using a torch on a stubborn bolt to get it out. I still have the original tie rod so maybe I'll reshoot like I never did it come spring. It was 20 degrees when I shot the thing.
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The "tie rod" is actually the LH inner tie rod end, so it has a spherical joint. Junkyard would be OK if you can find one that isn't worn out. Personally I'd rather just install new parts.
Yes you are correct about that, i have a currie set up already so its been awhile but lookin to do the same thing for my xj, i do look before i bring home junk yard parts but i do tend to find great parts too, just the other day found a rubicon express front track bar for an xj in great shape! A good pick n pull tends to not be so "junky" sometimes.
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I'm installing all new everything. I got the ZJ tie rod setup, but I wanted the drag link to replace the ball joint on the passenger side too. It makes sense to have all new ball joint / TREs for the steering, but then I got carried away and decided I'm going to replace the ball joints, hubs, ujoints on the axle, etc. $800+ (including the OTC ball joint tool and adapters) I have all the parts sitting in my garage. It was going to be installed this week, but plans changed so its a couple weeks out now. "while I'm at it" tends to get out of control for me! I almost put sleeves in the axle "while I was at it"
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Strongly considering this ZJ V8 tie rod swap. I planned on going with Currie, but money has been tight considering im fixing everything all at once. About a month ago i had plans for 35s and finishing my 8.8. Looks like the 8.8 and 35s are going to have to wait until winter. I totally f'd up my steering while wheeling, and need a new radiator/throttle sensor, and a bunch of other goodies. Came close to hydro-locking my motor.

So looks like the ZJ tie rod seems to be the best buy for me at the moment.
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Strongly considering this ZJ V8 tie rod swap. I planned on going with Currie, but money has been tight considering im fixing everything all at once. About a month ago i had plans for 35s and finishing my 8.8. Looks like the 8.8 and 35s are going to have to wait until winter. I totally f'd up my steering while wheeling, and need a new radiator/throttle sensor, and a bunch of other goodies. Came close to hydro-locking my motor.

So looks like the ZJ tie rod seems to be the best buy for me at the moment.
okie dokie. look at this site for your other parts needed. We can ship it all at once.

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