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Old 10-27-2010, 11:07 PM   #121
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Being a Ford man, no one in the Ford community would ever say 302 Windsor....in fact thats a great way to let someone know you don't know what you are talking about right off the bat Windsor is only added to determine which type of 351 it is...never a 302 since there was only one 302 version. 351's rather have 3 well known versions.

What do you mean no EGR valve?? All EFI motors have EGR valves.

Stay away from modular motors...they are too wide, too hard to make work with OBD1, and too much money to make um run.

An LT1 is a piece of crap, nothing interchanges and they are not cheap to build.
Yeah half these descriptions say w/ egr valve or without. Do I need the egr valve?

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Being a Ford man, no one in the Ford community would ever say 302 Windsor....in fact thats a great way to let someone know you don't know what you are talking about right off the bat Windsor is only added to determine which type of 351 it is...never a 302 since there was only one 302 version. 351's rather have 3 well known versions.

What do you mean no EGR valve?? All EFI motors have EGR valves.

Stay away from modular motors...they are too wide, too hard to make work with OBD1, and too much money to make um run.

An LT1 is a piece of crap, nothing interchanges and they are not cheap to build.
Really don't know what I'm talking about? Guess wikipedia or ford-wiki doesn't know what they're talking about either. Or Ford-Trucks.com or Jalopinik, or even maybe the 302w.com forums (the Windsor forums)

The 302 Windsor V8 Ford Engine .: Articles
Engine of the Day: Ford Windsor V8

what an awfully pretentious and incorrect statement you just made there. There is a 351W... the W distingushies it from the Cleveland. But the Windsor covers a number of different engine displacements. And the question is if there is an EGR hole in the exhaust manifold, w/ and w/o are two options for the 5.0L Windsor Explorer.

And while the LT1 was relatively short lived, overall I might be sticking with a GM engine. For the money you're gaining a heck of a lot better performance. I hope you didn't take my previous post as bashing the Ford small-block series as a poor choice for a Jeep swap. My intention is to purchase an engine that is going to provide the most performance for the best price. I was simply pointing out that on paper the Chevy/GM engines seemed to be the better value, I'm not THAT brand-loyal.

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Old 10-28-2010, 08:05 AM   #123
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New one on me, too, I've never heard of 302 windsor. I've heard of bolting windsor heads onto a 302 and calling it a "boss".

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Old 10-28-2010, 09:01 AM   #124
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Settle down beavis all I was saying is that out here in the real world someone would laugh their ass off at you if you asked them for a 302 windsor....I have been a ford man all my life and I have never heard anyone say those words in the same context.

Which of my statements was incorrect?

Every explorer motor I have had has had the EGR hole in the manifold, but it can be deleted no big deal.

IMHO an LT1 is the worst choice once could make for a swap of any kind. They are almost twice as expensive to machine, nothing off a regular 350 is the same, and performance??? meh, they are fair I guess.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:49 AM   #125
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Hey I have a 5.2L magnum I' m getting ready to pull out of my dakota if you are interested hit me up. I think it would be much easier. I am a newbie though so I could be wrong.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:17 PM   #126
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I would definitely be interested in that. The 302 or 351 is what I would like to swap out to as well. I've just been waiting on my 2.5 to give up the ghost, but I'm starting to wonder if that's even going to happen lol!
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:35 PM   #127
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Hey I have a 5.2L magnum I' m getting ready to pull out of my dakota if you are interested hit me up. I think it would be much easier. I am a newbie though so I could be wrong.
I might be interested in the 5.2, depends where your located. I was planing on a 360 swap out of my 86 ramcharger since it now sports a 440
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:29 AM   #128
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Sorry about the hi jack. I'm in nv 25 min east of Reno. So we are not hi jacking this thread any more email me at zboom86@hotmail.com
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:35 PM   #129
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I just fired it up. I had just put new timing cover gasket and water pump. I'm going to miss this motor.
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:08 PM   #130
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Hello gentle men and ladies i just started with this site and had one big question hopeing you can help me out.

What v8 will be a direct bolt up to a 93 Ax15 transmission out of a Wrangler Yj? i have heard an older AMC v8 will but i have also heard that a newer Dodge magnum fuel injected engine would to would you guys give some info please.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:00 AM   #131
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Hi guys. I'm new to the forum and am following the v8 swap discusion as i would like to do this to my 88 yj 4.2 auto. So far no one has mentoined the question of how to handle the smog laws here in calif. any advice ?
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:08 AM   #132
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Its my understanding that as long as you use a new enough engine, keep all the smog stuff on it, and use the correct cat and muffler that it will pass. I'm glad we don't have to do that crap here
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I will agree i am from wyoming and theres is no smog law sorry
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:37 AM   #134
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I looked at the V8 conversion, But when I saw the tv show extreme 4X4 take a 4.0 and stroke it using a 4.2 crank and rods. they made close to 250 HP. The best part its all jeep parts and the only mod to do is 4.0 engine mounts and wiring harness
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:01 PM   #135
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I'm dropping a carburated 350 in a 98 wrangler, I'm good with the mechanical side, the wiring side of the house has me at a loss. anybody done this remember how they wired it up and what I need?
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How would you bypass the immobilizer in a mid 98+ explorer ECM?
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How would you bypass the immobilizer in a mid 98+ explorer ECM?
You dont, you use a 89-93 Mustang ECM and harness
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:33 AM   #138
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V 8 conversion ?

Hey you guys,
I have a 89 YJ . and my 4.2 just popped. I have been waiting for this, I been looking into doing a v8 conversion for a while, anybody out there use the advance adapters kit? if so how did it work, and or does anybody have any suggestions for a conversion kit option?
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:04 PM   #139
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Reviving an old one, but I have questions...
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:40 PM   #140
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Ford 302 Conversion in my 89 YJ..
Motor - 97-01 Ford Explorer/Mountaineer - As complete as possible, Is there something that i MUST get when buying motor?
ECM - 89-93 Ford Mustang, I assume a 5spd one..
Fuel Rail, Distributor, coil & Injector Harness I'm assuming is from the same year Mustang
Tranny - I will be going with a rebuilt AX-15 mated to my 231 T-Case
Which Harness?


Advance Adapter - 302 to AX15
Bellhousing?

Anything I'm missing?
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:52 AM   #141
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Actually a small block ford fits better because the distributor is in the front. You can get an injected one out of an explorer for 400-500. Then if you want, you can use the ford tranny and case and the driveshaft will come out on the correct side for your stock jeep axles.
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did you ever create/post that step by step on the injection?
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:46 PM   #142
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:56 PM   #143
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The ford 302 is commonly considered a windsor because it shares the same characteristics and is hard to discern form a 351 Windsor. The easiest way to tell the difference is the distance from the top water pump hole to the top of the deck or the gap from the block to the lower intake surface. One is an 8.2 deck where the other is a 9.5 (varying depending on year). I have to agree with Ibuildembig. The Explorer 5.0 with a Mustamg A9L or even an A3M will suffice for ECM and you can even go cheaper with an EECIV harness that's Speed Density out of any of the 5.0 vehicles, repin the ECM harness for Mass Air based off the ECM pinout and you're good to go. I have 3 SD harnesses as well as an old Accell Gen6 DFI I could consider using (if I have the old computer to run DOS!!!)

You could go cheaper and run a 302 Explorer carb'd. Just grab an intake and carb and get a cheap 302 setup HEI distro from EBay and you're in there. I think the EFI is the better way to go. I've swapped tons of 302's from MKVII's and Mustangs into a few different things. 4 runner, Ranger, tons of 4 banger foxes. You can't beat the power and simplicity of these. an LX is going to have more power but not as simple.

I found a 98 5.0 Expo with a 3.73 LSD rear in it. I was looking at the 8.8 for my 63 Fairlane but might pick this truck up for the jeep if the whole drivetrain will work. Are the AODE's fully electronic in those years? That would be the problem area unless you convert to an older AOD but you need a donor then. Is the transfer case oriented for the keep axles already? If it's a simple install and get shafts to fit and you're done, that can't be beat. A nice 255lph pump for $100 and return line for about $40 and you're in!.

Am I on the right track with this? I'm a Ford diehard myself but haven't dove into the Expo's yet. Currently have a 63 Galaxie 4.6 DOHC/4R70W project, 63 Fairlane 357/AOD project 03 DRW/CC/LB 6.0 modded out and now the Jeep. Why not put a Ford setup in it? It's all I know.

Good luck on your choice. A good place to look is repairables on Craigslist or your local classifieds. Plenty of cosmetically crappy vehicles out there that run great for pennies on the dollar. Just look.

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Ibuildembig, I'm fixing to pull the trigger on a 97 Exploder locally. I figure I can use the 302 & the 8.8, part/scrap the rest & come out even or a little ahead.

You still playing with Ford swaps or are you taking a break? I might be in need of some technical support regarding the EFI.

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