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Old 06-08-2013, 07:03 PM   #1
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I am new to your forum and the name is Dominic. I am currently talking with a women that has had a Jeep sitting out front of her yard for over two years. She is asking 2300 is I believe far to much, and I have instead offer to trade her tree services for her jeep.

I need an idea of what the value of this jeep is

I know its been sitting for two years, there is rot in the tube and windshield frame. She can't tell me anymore, other then what I have told you. I don't know if it runs, or the 4 wheel drive works. I don't want to rip her off, just looking to do a fair trade.

Any help would be great.

I snapped some pictures so tell me what you think
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:07 PM   #2
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more pictures

More info, its a v-6, 5-speed, with 215,632 miles.

vin # 2j4fy2951mj109493
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Well, if it runs and drives, those YJ's will go for 2300 all day long.

A couple of years ago, before I knew much about jeeps, a friend bought a 1994 or 95 Sahara that was nearly as rusty on the tub, and it was $4500, and it had 200,xxx miles on it.

You need to see if it runs and drives first. Otherwise its worth nothing.

The 4wd could be fixed easily if it isn't working correctly, unless it is something in the T-case.

Why has it been sitting for so long?

Also expect to start replacing parts immediately, along with changing all fluids. If that frame is rusted through on the rear right there, well, unless you can repair the frame rails yourself, you're in for an expensive repair.

A vehicle sitting is harder on one than driving it every day.
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here is the rest!

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I am going to say it doesn't run and drive now, tires are flat, and I am not willing to try and start it with out, plugs, oil change, and replacing the gas.

It was her husbands jeep, and when he got sick they parked it. I think he has since passed away.
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You should ask her if it ran when parked.

You can check the oil, put some jumper cables on it, and then try to start it with some carb cleaner or something spraying it into the TB to see if it will fire up.

If it will fire up, well at least you know it runs.

After that start working on it.
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Well, if it runs and drives, those YJ's will go for 2300 all day long.

A couple of years ago, before I knew much about jeeps, a friend bought a 1994 or 95 Sahara that was nearly as rusty on the tub, and it was $4500, and it had 200,xxx miles on it.

You need to see if it runs and drives first. Otherwise its worth nothing.

The 4wd could be fixed easily if it isn't working correctly, unless it is something in the T-case.

Why has it been sitting for so long?

Also expect to start replacing parts immediately, along with changing all fluids. If that frame is rusted through on the rear right there, well, unless you can repair the frame rails yourself, you're in for an expensive repair.

A vehicle sitting is harder on one than driving it every day.
My cousin John Trimmer is was posted at Fort Hood for a while.
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It will be a LONG project though. So if you have extra time and money to invest on replacing a ton of stuff and repairs, then by all means go for it.
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You should ask her if it ran when parked.

You can check the oil, put some jumper cables on it, and then try to start it with some carb cleaner or something spraying it into the TB to see if it will fire up.

If it will fire up, well at least you know it runs.

After that start working on it.
I just don't want to mess something up trying to start it before we have a deal worked out. She said it ran when it was parked.
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FWIW... I paid $1200 for my 95 with 120K fewer miles on it just 2 years ago and ALOT less rust. Is a 2.5l, but I do not think the 6 is worth a grand more.
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I just don't want to mess something up trying to start it before we have a deal worked out. She said it ran when it was parked.
I think that the condition it is in, I would offer her $1,000 to 1500 at most.

And you're ripping yourself off there if you don't try to see if it runs first.
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Rust Bucket

That thing needs a lot of help. If you can get it for a thousand it would be risky. last October I bought my 91 rust free with 145 thou. miles and a 4.0 5 speed with a hard top for 4 thousand. It really didn't need it but I had it and the top repainted the original color and put in a carpet kit and new best top seats. I now have about 6 thou. in it and its a very nice daily driver.
Don't let anyone tell you a 2.5 is ok. When and if you buy one you will always wish you had something else. Where as the 4.0 has more power than you need and still gives you good economy.
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:23 PM   #13
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Thanks for the help guys, but she is firm on her price, and its just to much work.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:56 PM   #14
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For that amount of rust and work and what she wants....pass
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Save up about 3-5000 and you will be right in the zone.
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:30 PM   #16
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Definitely pass. That thing has the rot. She is an $800 beast at best...
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Don't let anyone tell you a 2.5 is ok. When and if you buy one you will always wish you had something else. Where as the 4.0 has more power than you need and still gives you good economy.

Man that is not good advice. I have a 2000 TJ Sahara 4.0 and a 95 YJ 2.5. There is really not a ton of difference in performance, both are slow. The 2.5 does fine. I def would not tell someone never to buy one they are good little motors.
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Man that is not good advice. I have a 2000 TJ Sahara 4.0 and a 95 YJ 2.5. There is really not a ton of difference in performance, both are slow. The 2.5 does fine. I def would not tell someone never to buy one they are good little motors.
Agreed. My 2.5 gets the job done. Sometimes I wish I had the 4.0L but overall I am in a jeep so I don't really care.

Also, I would probably pass on that thing. It has a TON of rust. That's going to be a lot of work. If you really want it though I would say maybe 500-800 bucks. Other than that I would pass and keep your eyes peeled for something in better shape.
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edit: The one picture shows a leaf spring completely flat. I heard people say that but I always thought they were exaggerating. First time I saw that...

I don't mind the 2.5, I didn't buy this thing to go fast

I would pass, I got my rust bucket for $1000 with 140k miles on it. Be prepared to replace everything. In my case I'm replacing the frame and body, it's a lot of work, but I planned on it when I bought the vehicle.

The only reason I bought it is because it came with a new set of 31x10.5's, that's what made it worth $1k to me. Then I ran it all winter to be sure it worked 100% mechanically before I even started repairing so I didn't waste my time.

So make sure it runs good before you buy it, and offer her less than a thousand. You're not buying it for the body I can tell you that.
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I'd run like crazy from that thing, just way too much work judging by those pics. Looks about shot to me.
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Lots of work there. I agree on the 800 dollar offer. Only if you enjoy projects too. Your time vs money investment is never gonna equal out. You would be better off saving up about 5k and getting one in good shape. If you would enjoy all that work then it would be a great 800 dollar start to a lot of time well spent.... Good luck
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I actually currently own a 1990 2.5 manual with about the same miles on it. Its not as rotted as that one, runs, needs brakes and a floor pan (and prolly everthing else). I paid $800 and a modded xbox for it. Your seller's price is ridiculous.

I also have a 1990 4.2 auto that I bought for $2500 almost no rot.

I bought both in March but I had spent the last five months looking.

My advice to you....keep shopping. Don't be in a hurry, wait to find the right one. You'll be much better off.
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Man that is not good advice. I have a 2000 TJ Sahara 4.0 and a 95 YJ 2.5. There is really not a ton of difference in performance, both are slow. The 2.5 does fine. I def would not tell someone never to buy one they are good little motors.




that's WHY THEY MAKE BOTH the 2.5 and the 4.0 Personally you couldn't give me a 2.5 I had one of the nicest 4cyl. Sammy's on the road but that thing was a road hazard on the freeway My 4.0 cruses at freeway speeds all day long and still has power to spare.
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I would definitely pass...as others have said, save your money and be patient, the right Jeep is out there for you.

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