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Old 06-11-2011, 07:16 PM   #1
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I vaguely remember something like this back in the early 70's with a water type injection into the air intake on larger cubic inch displacement vehicles, of the buick variety if I remember correctly. can't say that I remember them making that much of an improvement in gas mileage but this WAS in the days of the carb. so, it will warrant some investigation. sure hope there is something to this.......Driller

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I vaguely remember something like this back in the early 70's with a water type injection into the air intake on larger cubic inch displacement vehicles, of the buick variety if I remember correctly. can't say that I remember them making that much of an improvement in gas mileage but this WAS in the days of the carb. so, it will warrant some investigation. sure hope there is something to this.......Driller
how does it work???
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Has to do with the flames.. They add noticeable hp and gas millage to your jeep..









































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I vaguely remember something like this back in the early 70's with a water type injection into the air intake on larger cubic inch displacement vehicles, of the buick variety if I remember correctly. can't say that I remember them making that much of an improvement in gas mileage but this WAS in the days of the carb. so, it will warrant some investigation. sure hope there is something to this.......Driller
Water injection is very real and was used in WWI and WWII era piston engine aircraft as well in some turbine applications. For piston powered craft it gave significant power gains and used less fuel in high altitude flight where air density is low... Not something your average Jeep can do. Unless of course you add a cool flame paint job, thats good for atleast 20,000 feet or so. It also helped with engine knock in times of higher power demands at lower altitude in effect making more power by altering the octane rating. It also lowers both intake and exhaust temps. Lots of merrit in aircraft applications.

I also have heard of this being used back in the 70's on a Buick from an instructor I had at Spartan College of Aeronautics years ago. He knew his stuff, but getting the same effect at ground level seems a bit far fetched to me. They say it is as easy as setting up a watered venturi and leaning the carb a bit.
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It isn't water injection it is an hydrogen generator that introduces hydrogen, (actually, Brown's gas), through the intake and is supposed to increase fuel mileage. I've seen two people make the kits, but they don't work one bit. I have, however, seen the generator work well enough to allow a small lawn mower engine run at idle. Don't waste your time or money.
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It works the government shut down the website ( or so I heard )
Mythbuster tried this method and they failed. But I guess they didn't make the cell correctly and never added baking soda which is key to making the hydrogen.
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It works the government shut down the website ( or so I heard )
this is never a good qualifier for why NO ONE has successfully created and maketed a product... There would be hundreds of sites and a few dozen successful products out there if the hydrogen fuel cell were so simple and efficient, no govenment could stop it. Chemistry and Physics are the limiting factors in producing the quantity needed to run a large engine or even supplement the fuel enough to double fuel mileage. I had a coworker fooling around with these concepts and he could not get anything close to what would be required by a large engine in a compact unit. This was using info and plans found online, just like the above video claims.
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I don't have a clue. It just seemed to me way back when it was used to stop or help in spark knock and made claims on improving gas mileage. The vehicle that I saw that had it MAY have gotten 1-2 more mpg but it only seemed to help in a higher compression engine say 11 to 1 and was a buick with their version of a hipo engine. I surely don't claim any truth to this and am just relaying info that I saw YEARS ago and am skeptical to this. I'd rather have a 3.3L or 3.9L diesel in my jeep yj. hoping to get up soon with a guy that did this conversion........Driller

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