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Old 08-18-2014, 01:42 PM   #1
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What considerations should i take into account for a 4" lift

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What considerations should i take into account for a 4" lift
Sye/cv drive shaft ( highly recommended )
Extended brake lines
Dropped pitman arm ( if you don't go with a high steer setup )

Buy 4 9/16" x 5" grade 10.9 bolts with lock nuts and washers (2 washers per bolt ) they won't come with any kit yours will probably be seized
Frame mount shackle bushings should be replaced. Check your balljoints, hubs , tierod ends if that have slop replace them no sense putting on new suspension parts with old stuff that's worn out.

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Old 08-27-2014, 08:33 AM   #3
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Im not buying a set kit. I am going to a local place. He has specialized in jeeps for 20+ years and has created his own "kit" of various companies. Based off his past experiences
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Im not buying a set kit. I am going to a local place. He has specialized in jeeps for 20+ years and has created his own "kit" of various companies. Based off his past experiences
This might be a great idea. But "what if" you need parts because something broke or wore out? Youll have to get a build sheet from the local shop on all the various companies and parts that were used. This will be annoying and a PIA. I suggest spend the money on a kit and do it right.
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:43 AM   #5
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What considerations should i take into account for a 4" lift
A 4" lift will mean bigger tires, I assume. You'll be unable to use 5th gear with 33" tires and the 4cyl engine that you have.

As noted, you'll need an SYE and a CV driveshaft (or a transfer case drop- yuck)

Do you have a body lift? What are you wanting to do with the Jeep?

Two recommendations:

1) consider a 2.5" complete lift kit. I like Rubicon Express. Old Man Emu also gets a lot of positive comments. Everything is a little easier and less expensive when you keep the lift lower - an SYE isn't needed. A drop pittman arm won't be necessary.

2) install the lift kit yourself. It's very easy, and you will save a ton of money. And it will be a great way for you to get familiar and comfortable with your Jeep.
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:57 AM   #6
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I don't understand you question...If you plan on having another person do the lift for you, and he is using his own style of lift "from various companies" then what are you trying to ask?

Sounds to me like you are going to let him do it, and that all of our comments would be null and void anyway.

I can tell you this, a 4" lift kit is too tall for a 4cyl Jeep YJ. Reason for this is that with a 4" lift you can run 33" tires, and after you spend the money for the lift and tires and the 4.88 gears to haul them around you will be pissed because the Jeep doesn't have any power and you are always in low range when you are off road. JMO.
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I am buyjng the kit and doing it myself. Beside the lift kit what else should i look at doing at the same time.
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I am buyjng the kit and doing it myself. Beside the lift kit what else should i look at doing at the same time.
No easy answer...As asked above, what are you wanting to do with your Jeep??????
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:08 PM   #9
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Offroading. Trails. Minor rocks ever now and then. Mostly trails and beach. I plan on gettong pitman are and sway bar dosconnects at same time i do lift.

As far as 33 being too big for 4 banger. All posts are split. Its not a daily driver for me. I have a corilla and victory gunner for that.

Here is one place i will be going to
http://www.redcloudoffroad.com/pictures/
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You don't need a 4" lift to clear 33s. 2.5" + 1" body lift + TJ rear flares fits 33s quite nicely. But, it sounds like you've got your mind made up already.

I'm still not sure exactly what advice you are looking for. You are definitely going with a 4" lift and definitely going with 33" tires. None of use can comment on the lift or what is included with the lift kit because it is from your local shop.

As mentioned twice already, you should plan for an SYE/driveshaft or a transfer case drop.

I think you should plan for an 8.8 swap too, as I wouldn't trust the Dana 35 with 35" tires.
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I originally planned on 2.5 lift. After talking the 4" is same price. Id prefer suspenion over body lift.

Looking more for advice. Like f8.8 and stuff from jeepers with 4 bangers based off their experience
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:29 PM   #12
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As far as the lift kit i am buying. Its the same as me going and buying a starndard kit anyone offers.
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The rear drive shaft. With a 4" kit it needs to be extended. So most go with a SYE and a CV shaft. That way you get a new drive shaft of the proper length, and you can eliminate the need for the t-case drop.

The gears need to be upgraded to a 4.88 ratio. The correct ratio for the 4cyl with 33" tires is 5.13. but that big of a gear doesn't fit in the D30 front end, so you are limited to 4.88's. And you have to do both the front and rear end together, or at least make the gears match.

The popular rear end that everybody switches to is a Ford 8.8, basically because the bolt pattern (5 on 4.5") is the same, and it is close to being the same width, actually about 1-1/2" narrower than the D35. But you should be able to wheel for awhile with the stock rear since the 4 popper doesn't make enough torque to do it much harm. Not saying it will last (cause mine broke turning into my driveway in 2wd), but it will be ok for now.

The dropped pitman arm will be mandatory to get your steering geometry back into sync. You can take the track bars off (if you haven't already) when you do the lift, and throw them away. The extended sway bar quick disconnects are a good idea, but that is your personal preference. I haven't had a sway bar or track bars on mine for 10 years and I have never had an issue with it.
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Old 08-27-2014, 03:03 PM   #14
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Thays the type of advice i was looking for. Drive shaft never crossed my mind
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No track bar or sway bars and no death wobble?

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