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Old 04-21-2011, 07:41 AM   #271
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Ahh crap I'm an a$$ I do wf on my phone and those posts were all the way on another page haha but it shoould still be the same basic principles
i know the feeling i do wf on my evo and it only shows so many post

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Old 04-21-2011, 08:46 AM   #272
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Here's a great read on drive shaft angles. It help me understand how it all works. It's very simple to do once I understood it. Also I don't think one angle fits all. You need to find your own angle. But then again I'm no pro.


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Old 04-21-2011, 09:06 AM   #273
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Sorry guys had to mow the yard last night lol

1350's will be just fine as they are used in 90 percent of your 1 ton trucks. The only actual difference in that and a 1410 is the cross size, the caps are the same. And your gonna have a hard time finding a 1410 for both ends...hell 1350 was bad enough.

I really dont go buy any calculations on DS angles honestly. I just set it low and jack the pinion up slow until I like the looks of it. I usually set it 2-3 degrees low to allow for rearend uptorque though. Every jeep, every lift, every rearend setup is gonna be different
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:15 AM   #274
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thanks for the info. its just about time to start the front and rear swap
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:06 PM   #275
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Can you post a pic of the difference b/w the stock pitman arm and the dpa you used? (just like side by side) I got one and it seems around 1-2" lower than the stock one
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:35 AM   #276
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Its not a 4 inch drop, its a arm for a 4 inch lift.
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:47 AM   #277
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Its not a 4 inch drop, its a arm for a 4 inch lift.
what is TT,MML???
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:52 AM   #278
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lol Tummy Tuck and Motor mount lift
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:59 AM   #279
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Ahh ok ,those things do sound dumb.The CG is already to high
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Old 04-24-2011, 10:06 AM   #280
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ahh ok ,those things do sound dumb.the cg is already to high
o rly?
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Old 04-24-2011, 10:48 AM   #281
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On a YJ ,it seem like a waste of money and time .so many other things to get hung up on.but then again I dont see many guys doing this to a Leaf sprung Jeep. I only know of one guy who did it to a TJ but he also has a turbo on his 2.5.and I dont think its ever been off road.
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:29 PM   #283
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started my soa tonite. since everyone had plans instead of helping, having 3 jacks handy made the rear alot easier then i thought.....

- tomarrow nite, the front...
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:40 AM   #285
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Great write up takes most of the guessing out of the picture, now just to do it to it.
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got the front and rear setup with ft waggy springs. the only thing left is the driveshaft fun....



this thread helped motivate me to get this done....
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Sweet! Glad I could help
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Old 05-14-2011, 05:38 PM   #288
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Ibuildembig, you just used the stock springs with no add-a-leafs correct?
I was planning on using a main leaf from another stock pack as an add-a-leaf to increase the spring rate to reduce sagging in the long run...

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You can do that, but its gonna decrease your ride and is really not necessary. The very first SOA I did was 14 years ago and we still have that jeep....no saggy yet
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Ok so with all our previous conversations aside... after 14 years of doing SOA's this is the first 8.8 rear end. So what axles do you use for the years prior to this one. Can I just use the front and rears out of a 4 cylinder with the 4.10's and be just fine? What was your prior builds like if I can ask. If there still going strong I can't argue that outcome.
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Thats been my argument for years....this was the first 8.8 correct. And the reason we did it to this one is its getting a stroked motor eventually and I know how dad like to get a lil crazy at times. Plus, 4.10 rears bring big money here for stock YJ's. If your not gonna try to follow a guy with 38-44's you should be ok with a 35 rear. I just didnt want to recommend using the stock rearend to you and it blow up...then your mad at me
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THANK YOU. that is what I want to hear. I am not going to be mad at all I just want to know its do-able. I understand what I break is my own issues im not a sue happy american! I would want tighter gearing but again. I am driving on 31's on just a shackle lift and the jeep is doing all I ask it to easily and all i want is a nice lift to it and be able to push it a tad more. I drive 22 miles round trip for work with top down. and some trails/muddin when I can. I am gonna run 33's thats it and all I ask. So I am happy you are saving me money to just use stock setup. But by using stock axles I have I only have the 3.07 or 3.55 gears. W/ 33's is that enough or should I still try to go 4.10 axles out of a 4cyl. Otherwise I am taking it SUPER easy compared to the rest of ya'll!
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Id 4.10 it for sure if you can get um
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Awesome. Really feeling much better about all this now. Now for the years of other SOAs you have done. What anti wrap bar setup have you done that is more realistic hah. Is it 100% needed?
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Back in the day I tried several different companies solutions and they just didnt do what I wanted....so that's why I make my own now. If you have a manual tranny they wont wrap as bad, but they are gonna wrap eventually and then your gonna throw that driveshaft out...simple as that The wishbone is the easiest, toughest, and cheapest to build.
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Back in the day I tried several different companies solutions and they just didnt do what I wanted....so that's why I make my own now. If you have a manual tranny they wont wrap as bad, but they are gonna wrap eventually and then your gonna throw that driveshaft out...simple as that The wishbone is the easiest, toughest, and cheapest to build.
I have an SOA that the PO did, no anti-wrap set up at all and I have pretty bad axle wrap, I was wondering if you could give us some measurements on the wishbone one that you built for your dad, I'll be building one soon but would like to take some of the guess work out if i could
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Sure tell me what you wanna know exactly and I will do my best
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The thickness of the steel, length of the pipe, degree of the bend, things like that
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Help!

My pitman arm drop didn't put the tie rod down enough to the drag link. I am not driving it yet but if you turn right at all it hits the bottom of the leaf spring on the passenger side. Any suggestions? Should I ditch my shackle lift of 1 1/4 and just get some stock or shorter height shackles?

Otherwise its all bout done for me tomorrow night is installing rear axle and welding perches on. All is mocked up well set pinion angle tomorrow. Then brake lines for rear and that's it. All front is done except doing transfer case drop
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Hmmm, Id try some stock shackles

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