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Old 05-24-2011, 10:40 AM   #301
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Hmmm, Id try some stock shackles
I am hoping the guy I got Jeep from has them, he said he might and is going to check so I can get them in tonight. I had a feeling these would become an issue. otherwise this thing is BIG!!! I am so damn happy I did this SOA. I love working on Jeeps everything is just so easy! Compared to 20 year old big trucks and my diesel stuff everything comes off easy and even if it doesn't it still can be fixed.

Got the front all done until I get this shackle/steering fixed.

Any suggestions on steering shaft mine has A LOT of play. Coming from firewall into the power steering box. The Ujoints are shot and looks to have been welded in the past. Works still for now but deff explains the sloppy steering I had, although not horrible for as loose as it is.

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So far I havent found anyone who can get the joints for them, I just replace the shaft. I have some good used ones for 70 bucks...new is 125

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Old 05-24-2011, 10:44 AM   #303
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Those are stock ones? I figured just replace the shaft, as I said some old gobber welds are on it haha. I was going to hopefully find something around here being its not holding me back any. I need to get this thing done tonight if all goes as planned (never does of course) and then that and a few other things are on top of my list.

I may be interested though. Whats shipping and all gonna run me. I would have it sent to my business address if helps.
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:46 AM   #304
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I can do it for 70 shipped toya
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:52 AM   #305
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Few crapy pics from phone that looks like I had a smudge on the lens

I love nice clean painted black axles and all!

These are with 15x10 Micky T beadlocks (fake ones) with 33x12.5x15 Goodyear Duratracs




My steering hit

Just a view of drivers side.
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:55 AM   #306
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I can do it for 70 shipped toya
Let me wait till next paycheck... running pretty low on funds after buyin all these thigns haha. I need to sell my stock axles too try getting something back. I know they are not worth much. I need to figure out if they were 3.07's or 3.55's. I'll look and check for tags tonight.

By friday or so I'll be in touch with you to pick that up im sure. Thanks a ton for the help again!
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help me out here. How's this driveshaft look as far as angle everything. I get some vibration from like 25 up to maybe 45 then smooths out and os fine. Is that my prob? All new ujoints. Hoping I put angle in right. I am going to make a call about a longer driveshaft tomorrow.

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Old 05-25-2011, 03:46 AM   #308
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you need to have an sye installed and a CV drive shaft made. running the stock slip yolk shaft wont last long...
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:55 AM   #309
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Understood. However been told from a few hands on users as well its a waste of money don't bother. If needed like this ill make driveshaft longer. I just think the angle is off sine. Hopefully takes away my vibrations.
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you need to have an sye installed and a CV drive shaft made. running the stock slip yolk shaft wont last long...
13 years and going on my first SOA....you dont "HAVE" to have anything

Looks like you could have raised the pinion up a little bit more but its not terrible. Most likely your vibes are comming from the shaft not being long enough into the back of the case. Get a longer one made and see how she does....BTW spicer joints or nothing
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Old 05-25-2011, 08:03 AM   #311
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Haha thanks for the reply man. I am looking inti shaft today. Is it horrible to drive still? Other than that it is perfect and handles awesome! I am going to put track bar in hopefully help front axle stay put. And then build some rear wrap bars.
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Old 05-25-2011, 12:29 PM   #312
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ya i had my driveshaft looking similiar to that but not as far out and the back of my transfercase exploded where the shaft goes into the t-case. and after that both universals exploded on the driveshaft and bent the driveshaft
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:15 PM   #313
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I also need steering help with 93 and a soa
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:37 PM   #314
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Done! No steering problems. Just need to address the rear driveshaft. Either get a longer one or go SYE and CV....

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Have you ever done a SOA with a Ford 9"?
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:51 AM   #316
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Nope but it wouldnt be any different.....I gave up on 1/2 ton stuff years ago lol.

The problem is finding a front that will work with the rear considering the only 5 lug Dana 44 Ford ever used with leaf springs was a 1/2 ton extended cab.
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Nope but it wouldnt be any different.....I gave up on 1/2 ton stuff years ago lol.

The problem is finding a front that will work with the rear considering the only 5 lug Dana 44 Ford ever used with leaf springs was a 1/2 ton extended cab.
Hm I always find wagoneer fronts and 6 bolt pattern. Have you ever converted a 44 to 5 bolt?
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Nah that's GM stuff lol

Seriously though, I think its possible by just changing the knuckle/spindle/hub etc or a combination of those.
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Done! No steering problems. Just need to address the rear driveshaft. Either get a longer one or go SYE and CV....

Ditch the Duratracs?
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Nah that's GM stuff lol

Seriously though, I think its possible by just changing the knuckle/spindle/hub etc or a combination of those.
Lol maybe I'll just upgrade my shafts lol
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This is my rear driveshaft... Is this angle to steep? i either need a longer driveshaft or a SYE/CV...

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Thats not gonna work, you need to rotate your pinion up alot.
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This is my rear driveshaft... Is this angle to steep? i either need a longer driveshaft or a SYE/CV...

You might have trouble getting your TC and Pinion parallel. The angle is going to be pretty steep. Obviously CV with a SYE eliminates that problem.

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Old 06-07-2011, 09:29 AM   #324
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A CV and SYE will not fix that problem....the pinion is way too far down. It needs to be cut loose and rolled up and it will be fine.
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Dig this back up and bug ya for some more info.

Mine has beed EXCELLENT so far. Until I get these front ujoints replaced on the axle and a traction bar im not testing it to much. Fork lift test wen't well though!

I know with new shocks it can be a tad ruff but i'll b ehonest as great as it handles nad drives its pretty stiff of a ride. Stock springs are flat w/ jeeps weight and stock shackles. Using RC basic shocks. With just the stock weight of the jeep and stock motor would you suggest I yank out 1 leaf from the pack to soften it up. And do I take out one of the longer springs in ir or the bottom stiffer spring. Curious some opinions. Just thinking when in the trails it will be verys tiff bouncing around instead of absorbing anything. Runnin 25psi in 33x12.5.15 duratracs on 15x10 wheels. Road that is and its just killer on bumps and turns real stiff. No sway bar and only front trac bar in to help axle movement.

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Old 08-02-2011, 07:47 AM   #326
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It woulda went up about a foot or so further had the flares not hit. They will prolly get changed in stage 2. On another note, the wishbone is perfect and doesnt inhibit travel in the slightest.
Im curoius how you addressed the front shocks? I know you had to get longer one but where did you mount the front shocks and how did you measure for new ones? and what shocks did you use?
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I think your making it way more complicated than it is.....they are mounted in the stock location top and bottom. I believe they came from RC and were a 8170 or 8113 whichever is longer.

You just have to measure for full up and down travel and decide what you wanna run.
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Beautiful job! I am considering doing this to my 94. When I bought it, it all ready had a 4" lift in it. I noticed that you are doing this SOA with the stock springs. How much different would it be to do with the 4" springs in it all ready?

ABout 15 years ago Dad and I built a CJ5 that had a 4" spring lift, SOA, and a 2" body lift, then ran 36" TSL's on it. I remember having to build an extension from the frame to lower the steering box because we couldnt find a large enough drop on a pitman arm. I dont remember doing anything with the driveshafts (Im sure we did though)...
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Beautiful job! I am considering doing this to my 94. When I bought it, it all ready had a 4" lift in it. I noticed that you are doing this SOA with the stock springs. How much different would it be to do with the 4" springs in it all ready?

ABout 15 years ago Dad and I built a CJ5 that had a 4" spring lift, SOA, and a 2" body lift, then ran 36" TSL's on it. I remember having to build an extension from the frame to lower the steering box because we couldnt find a large enough drop on a pitman arm. I dont remember doing anything with the driveshafts (Im sure we did though)...
It would be way too tall in my opinion.... a soa on stock springs should net you about 5.5"s of lift so an soa with 4" springs would mean 9.5"s of lift....
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:44 AM   #330
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I have done it with 6's before, but it was more of a driver/mud toy. Anything is possible so I say go for it

I am using a 2 inch spring on my current SOA project.

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