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Old 08-04-2011, 08:19 PM   #331
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Beautiful job! I am considering doing this to my 94. When I bought it, it all ready had a 4" lift in it. I noticed that you are doing this SOA with the stock springs. How much different would it be to do with the 4" springs in it all ready?

ABout 15 years ago Dad and I built a CJ5 that had a 4" spring lift, SOA, and a 2" body lift, then ran 36" TSL's on it. I remember having to build an extension from the frame to lower the steering box because we couldnt find a large enough drop on a pitman arm. I dont remember doing anything with the driveshafts (Im sure we did though)...
4" springs SOA + 2" body lift and all you had were 36s?? I am SOA on stock springs + 2" body lift and my 35s look tiny!

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Old 08-07-2011, 10:20 PM   #332
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Great thread. The SOA is the first thing I'm going to do. Then who knows!

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Old 09-13-2011, 05:03 PM   #333
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so this is awesome but i have a question i have a 4 inch rancho lift right now and thinking about going SOA but not sure cause ive heard good and bad rep on it, but if i go through with it will it be the same process just with haveing to change the pinion angle of my diff's? and possably bigger axle (i have stock 30front 35rear) cause i plan on goin 35's
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If you take your current springs and soa them your gonna be able to run a 38 not a 35. I would upgrade the rear at least to an 8.8 for that size tire.
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I am SOA on stock springs with a 2" body lift. Off road, my 35s sometimes rub..
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:01 AM   #336
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If you take your current springs and soa them your gonna be able to run a 38 not a 35. I would upgrade the rear at least to an 8.8 for that size tire.
yea i know a buddy with a dana 40 and im thinking about swaping that into the front and then im looking for an 8.8, or dana 60 (not sure if there similar) for the rear. then looking for a 4bt and an ax-15 to swap out my 2.5 but just tryin to do the SOA right now
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yea i know a buddy with a dana 40 and im thinking about swaping that into the front and then im looking for an 8.8, or dana 60 (not sure if there similar) for the rear. then looking for a 4bt and an ax-15 to swap out my 2.5 but just tryin to do the SOA right now
For all the work involved in a SOA you might as well do the axles at the same time. If you don't, you'll just end up doing the SOA work twice.
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Old 09-16-2011, 09:06 AM   #338
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Just thought I'd tell some things about my recent soa conversion. Have a '93, 4.0, ax15, 3:07 gears, 33" tires and was on a Pro-comp 4" spring-under lift. Pretty much useless with those gears, tires and store-bought no-flex springs. Purchased new oem springs, used Ford 8.8 w/ 4:10 gears, re-geared dana 30 front to match, used existing Pro-comp shocks(they will probably go too), existing drop pitman arm, factory shackles for now, fabricated my own front track-bar bracket, and now it's like driving a completely different Jeep. Much smoother highway ride, flex Off-road and power (4:10 gears) Here's my only advice for what it's worth. 7 degrees nose up on pinion, 7 degrees down on t-case, JB conv. Super-short SYE, allowed me to use a 22" non-cv shaft and NO VIBS AT ANY SPEED SO FAR! Also, match your frt trac-bar angle to your drag-link angle to minimize bump-steer ( I have a very small amount when I hit a BIG hi-way bump).
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Old 09-16-2011, 03:02 PM   #339
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For all the work involved in a SOA you might as well do the axles at the same time. If you don't, you'll just end up doing the SOA work twice.
yea that sounds like it would be the logical thing to do, ill probaly end up haveing to wait just cause of the money, tahnks for the help guys
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:05 PM   #340
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:47 PM   #341
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So you took the sway bar off but left the trac bars on?? did you have to relocate the mounting bracket for the trac bars?? and with the 4.10s in the rear do you need to regear the front??
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Actually I left the swaybar on and the front track bar, but lost the rear trackbar. It has swaybar disconnects for offroad. I used a 4.10 front axle too.
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did you regear the D30 or did you find one out of a 4 cylinder or what? Im trying to gather as much information as possible before starting to collect parts over the winter for my springtime build.
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:49 PM   #344
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I had one out of a 4 popper in stock so I just used it
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oh okay! Thanks for the help. you do great work, and come spring time youll probably have a few more questions coming your way!
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:06 PM   #346
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:42 AM   #347
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you do great work and pay great attention to quality to the parts you fabricate.i have been thinking of doing this with my 4" lift but not anytime soon.great job and thanks for all the pics in the process.its tough to stop and take pics when you just want to do the work to get it done...
Dude, I was told that if you went SOA with anything taller than stock leafs, your whip will be too top heavy and you would need bigger tires as well as stretching your wheel base.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:46 AM   #348
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Who told you that? MY GE project has 2" on a SOA and I guarantee it will drive better than any stock jeep once it hits the road
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:56 PM   #349
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No, I'm talking about if they used bigger that 2" springs on an SOA set up.
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Old 12-19-2011, 01:55 PM   #350
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My last one had 6's on it and I ran a 38 bogger with no issues .....really it boils down to the person doing the work just like everything else. I know guys who can make a jeep drive bad with just a body lift lol

Here's blackie about circa 2001 with the 6 inch springs on it
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Damn that's sweet looking, got any more pictures of that one? Your builds just blow my mind constantly, love 'em all.

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My last one had 6's on it and I ran a 38 bogger with no issues .....really it boils down to the person doing the work just like everything else. I know guys who can make a jeep drive bad with just a body lift lol

Here's blackie about circa 2001 with the 6 inch springs on it
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Old 12-19-2011, 02:37 PM   #352
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Lemme see what I have.....I think there was a thread on it in the pics forum on here at one point
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^ off topic, but love the garage setup to. Lots of room!
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Old 12-19-2011, 03:15 PM   #354
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Found it for you:

My first YJ project circa 1999

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^ off topic, but love the garage setup to. Lots of room!
Thanks, that was a long time ago lol....where its sitting in the pic is where my paint booths are now. Im kinda wishing I had that room back....hmmm

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Yup, I think I have some others at home, I'll check
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:46 AM   #356
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Just from looking at that post, is it really worth buy coilovers? Because i was going to do TJ coil conversion but now im curious to see if its worth this? BTW i want my jeep to still be a daily driver but also better than all of my other friends jeeps lol.
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Depends on what your trying to accomplish. I dont think they are ever worth the money. I had 1600 in my two fronts by the time I was done and hated um....we use air shocks now and they are alot cheaper and easier to tune, but I don't know how they would react on the street. Adding coils isn't that big of a deal if you can weld and have time to set it all up correctly.
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Ok i wasnt to sure, did they drive nicely on the road? or kinda squirly?
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The coilovers? They were ok I guess...it just took 6 spring changes to get it that way. And then it was too stiff in the woods. I am sure there are people who can make them do what they want right out of the gate, but that hasn't been the case with anyone that I run with. Plus its a pain to keep taking them off and putting them back on to try something.
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Ok i wasnt to sure, did they drive nicely on the road? or kinda squirly?
I had someone tell me that most people switch coil to leaf rather thn leaf to coils. Maybe because of the flex?

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